Kirpans not allowed

Rick · 24th October 2006, 11:55 PM

I guess I would have to wonder if this were a crewman off a Danish trawler who had just got in from a trip and was wearing his sheath knife at his back in a dockside bar.
Has that scenario vanished from life in Denmark ?

Jens Nordlunde · 25th October 2006, 08:59 AM

The reason why they are getting more and more restrictions in Denmark, when it comes to knives is that there have, in the last few years, been more and more fights, stabbings and killings where knives were involved.

The reason why I started this thread was to warn anyone travelling to Denmark to be careful what you bring with you, and also if you sell to a Danish collector, to make sure he will get whatever he has bought from you – check with collector, he should know and ask him to check with the custom office.

Rather · 25th October 2006, 11:07 AM

Also in Germany the law is very strict, not only in view of guns, but since a few years also regarding knives. You may not carry a knife with a blade longer than approx. 4 inches.
Stilettos, shuriken and brass knuckles are illegal and your may not even own them (not to think about carrying them) The fine: up to 3 years prison.
Still we Germans consider ourselves as free people…

Nevertheless, fact is that there are more and more injuries caused by knifes, especially young hooligans create this problem, but 60% of the injuries are caused with normal household knifes and the above described restrictions are somehow rather a kind of propaganda.

Tim Simmons · 25th October 2006, 12:39 PM

I tend to agree with Ariel. It really is time somebody printed t-shirts with, Respect for the secular world.

Andrew · 25th October 2006, 01:34 PM

Gentlemen, let's please stay on-topic and not alow this discussion to become about religion.

Thanks.

Jens Nordlunde · 25th October 2006, 07:37 PM

I am sorry. My intention on bring this subject up was not to point it in a religious direction. I therefore hope that the posts here will stop, or that the moderators will lock the mail.

Mark · 25th October 2006, 11:30 PM

One of my issues with this type of decision (or legislation to similar effect), is that it so often is a cosmetic gesture that does not address the real underlying problem.

In the case of increasing knife violence, the problem is not knives, its the people who are using them and their reasons for doing so. Same goes for guns.

I do support reasonable restrictions, for example not wanting people to go around a city with a sword at their hip, or a rifle slung over their back. However, I dispair in these situations where there is an appearance of decisive or strong action that, in fact, has no real effect on the problem it supposedly addresses.

24th October 2006, 11:55 PM	#1
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	I guess I would have to wonder if this were a crewman off a Danish trawler who had just got in from a trip and was wearing his sheath knife at his back in a dockside bar. Has that scenario vanished from life in Denmark ?

25th October 2006, 08:59 AM	#2
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	The reason why they are getting more and more restrictions in Denmark, when it comes to knives is that there have, in the last few years, been more and more fights, stabbings and killings where knives were involved. The reason why I started this thread was to warn anyone travelling to Denmark to be careful what you bring with you, and also if you sell to a Danish collector, to make sure he will get whatever he has bought from you – check with collector, he should know and ask him to check with the custom office.

25th October 2006, 11:07 AM	#3
Rather Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hamburg, Germany Posts: 72	Also in Germany the law is very strict, not only in view of guns, but since a few years also regarding knives. You may not carry a knife with a blade longer than approx. 4 inches. Stilettos, shuriken and brass knuckles are illegal and your may not even own them (not to think about carrying them) The fine: up to 3 years prison. Still we Germans consider ourselves as free people… Nevertheless, fact is that there are more and more injuries caused by knifes, especially young hooligans create this problem, but 60% of the injuries are caused with normal household knifes and the above described restrictions are somehow rather a kind of propaganda.

25th October 2006, 12:39 PM	#4
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,844	I tend to agree with Ariel. It really is time somebody printed t-shirts with, Respect for the secular world.

25th October 2006, 01:34 PM	#5
Andrew Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,725	Gentlemen, let's please stay on-topic and not alow this discussion to become about religion. Thanks.

25th October 2006, 07:37 PM	#6
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	I am sorry. My intention on bring this subject up was not to point it in a religious direction. I therefore hope that the posts here will stop, or that the moderators will lock the mail.

25th October 2006, 11:30 PM	#7
Mark Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 987	One of my issues with this type of decision (or legislation to similar effect), is that it so often is a cosmetic gesture that does not address the real underlying problem. In the case of increasing knife violence, the problem is not knives, its the people who are using them and their reasons for doing so. Same goes for guns. I do support reasonable restrictions, for example not wanting people to go around a city with a sword at their hip, or a rifle slung over their back. However, I dispair in these situations where there is an appearance of decisive or strong action that, in fact, has no real effect on the problem it supposedly addresses.