Fighting with keris

Pusaka · 11th October 2006, 02:39 PM

Here is a short clip about Pendekar Steven Benitez, the only real western Pendekar to my knowlage http://www.goldenlightstudios.com/gl...ari3=video_tfm

Rick · 11th October 2006, 03:15 PM

I'm sorry Pusaka ; I get no image; just the soundtrack .

Pusaka · 11th October 2006, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

I'm sorry Pusaka ; I get no image; just the soundtrack .

Have no idea why, when I click on the link I get video and sound

Alam Shah · 11th October 2006, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

I'm sorry Pusaka ; I get no image; just the soundtrack .

You'll need Adobe or Macromedia Flash Player...
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Lew · 11th October 2006, 04:36 PM

Great video he is really good but I doubt that keris was 500 yrs old it looked more recent to me?

Lew

Pusaka · 11th October 2006, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by LOUIEBLADES

Great video he is really good but I doubt that keris was 500 yrs old it looked more recent to me?

Lew

He did not say how old the keris was, he just said "its old"

When he referred to the Vedic period he was saying that the symbol of the winged horse has its origins in the pri Islamic Vedic period.

Lew · 11th October 2006, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pusaka

He did not say how old the keris was, he just said "its old"

I think he said it was Bali or Lombak and it was from when the Indians ruled that area but I could be wrong? The blade looks to be Sulwasi or Bugis to me too small to be Bali?

Lew

David · 11th October 2006, 05:22 PM

Well, Steve seems like a nice chap and he sure does move pretty well, but i think it's fair to say that he doesn't know squat about keris. Firstly this keris, or at least the dress that he comments on is a very typical form of Madurese keris, not Lombak or Bali. He moves the blade quickly so it is hard to see, but it doesn't look all that impressive and my feeling is that this is a piece "made for travelers" so i doubt this would be a piece with much life energy in it. Hard to say without handling it though. The winged horse is a symbol rather specific to Madurese form an is post-Hindu as far as i know. Infact it may well be a European influenced symbol as the Madurese incorporated quite a bit of that into there dress designs.
Also i dare say that for someone who has traveled so much in Indonesian he hardly treats the blade in the manner i would expect to see from a person claiming to be knowledgable of the tradition. None of this, of course, necessarily reflects on his knowledge or abilities in silat.

11th October 2006, 02:39 PM	#1
Pusaka Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 341	Here is a short clip about Pendekar Steven Benitez, the only real western Pendekar to my knowlage http://www.goldenlightstudios.com/gl...ari3=video_tfm

11th October 2006, 03:15 PM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	I'm sorry Pusaka ; I get no image; just the soundtrack .

11th October 2006, 04:36 PM	#5
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Great video he is really good but I doubt that keris was 500 yrs old it looked more recent to me? Lew

11th October 2006, 05:22 PM	#8
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	Well, Steve seems like a nice chap and he sure does move pretty well, but i think it's fair to say that he doesn't know squat about keris. Firstly this keris, or at least the dress that he comments on is a very typical form of Madurese keris, not Lombak or Bali. He moves the blade quickly so it is hard to see, but it doesn't look all that impressive and my feeling is that this is a piece "made for travelers" so i doubt this would be a piece with much life energy in it. Hard to say without handling it though. The winged horse is a symbol rather specific to Madurese form an is post-Hindu as far as i know. Infact it may well be a European influenced symbol as the Madurese incorporated quite a bit of that into there dress designs. Also i dare say that for someone who has traveled so much in Indonesian he hardly treats the blade in the manner i would expect to see from a person claiming to be knowledgable of the tradition. None of this, of course, necessarily reflects on his knowledge or abilities in silat.