New book: Arms and Armor from Iran

Gt Obach · 24th September 2006, 02:24 AM

the book is a very good one.. .. it has lots of valuable information...
the author is Iranian and has produced a work from his perspective ( as all authors do )

as with all books... there maybe some small rough areas but on the whole it is a valuable contribution to the arms world..

its obvious that there are some characters that have their own view points/bias maybe even an agenda... who knows? but i can tell you that its about time people start making a positive effort..

it gets a little on my nerves... seeing some of the off color remarks..

its alway a good policy to treat people the way you would like to be treated.... ... and then everyone can come away with a good experience..

Greg

Rick · 24th September 2006, 02:33 AM

Thank you Greg and Carlo.

I would think it very unfortunate if an entire forum and its membership were to be judged by the personal opinions expressed by a few of its members.

Would you have us censor their opinions for just such a reason ?

Gt Obach · 24th September 2006, 02:48 AM

no... i realize that a couple bad apples don't spoil the barrel..

i guess i just got abit jumpy and had to say something about it.. .... its hard to sit back and read some of the posts... because i worry that it may turn some people off that may have benefited from the book..

Greg

Rick · 24th September 2006, 03:02 AM

Thanks Greg; that's good .

Our Apples are not bad; they just have an opinion like everyone else in God's world .
I think I have made my personal opinion about judging this work quite plain to all .

We all have a lot of reading (or saving up to purchase) ahead of us before much of substance can really be expressed in critical judgement of Mr. Khorasani's efforts.

I'm sure that he has put his heart and soul into this work; and who could ask for more of any man ? ..

Rick

tsubame1 · 24th September 2006, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

I would think it very unfortunate if an entire forum and its membership were to be judged by the personal opinions expressed by a few of its members.

Would you have us censor their opinions for just such a reason ?

My reply is a strong NO in both cases.
No personal judgment even about that few members, on my part, but the way the approaches *this* argument only. Go figure their persons or the whole forum. I've no clue of the "big picture", how can I judge people ?

Jeff D · 24th September 2006, 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gt Obach

its alway a good policy to treat people the way you would like to be treated.... ... and then everyone can come away with a good experience..

Greg

I agree 100%.

I give a heart felt congratulations to Manoucher on his monumental work. And I hope he gets the same respect and encouragement that he maintains for other works on the forum he moderates.

Jeff

B.I · 24th September 2006, 09:47 AM

i still look forward to a more detailed opinion/review/critisism of the actual content, whilst forgetting who actually wrote the book. it is what is written that counts and i hope to be pleasantly surprised, as i always do when a new book comes out. yes, i am normally disappointed, but it doesnt stop me hoping for something of importance.
kirill, i really value your opinion on the historical side, and look forward to your assessment, once read. as i do ariels.
but, i think you should lose the dustcover, skip past the first few pages (with the authors name) and dive in and give us a great and open review. i dont think anyone would complain if your assessment was on the content alone, with all personal opinions put aside.
i too havent agreed with the author in the past, but i am a collector, and desperate to fill my shelves with books to benefit my hobby.
however, i am not a fan of empty gratitude. the author will be judged on what he has produced, which is more important than the efforts alone.
as i have said before, i will judge the cataloguing in a strict way, as this is what i look for in a book. but even if my worst fears come true, i will always appreciate the chance to see the contents of 10 museums that i know i would never have known about.
the cover price is guaranteed to be accepted by me, due to the inclusion of these museums.
however, the cataloguing will determine which shelf the book ends up on - 'bloody useful' or 'coffee table picture book'

24th September 2006, 02:24 AM	#1
Gt Obach Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 116	the book is a very good one.. .. it has lots of valuable information... the author is Iranian and has produced a work from his perspective ( as all authors do ) as with all books... there maybe some small rough areas but on the whole it is a valuable contribution to the arms world.. its obvious that there are some characters that have their own view points/bias maybe even an agenda... who knows? but i can tell you that its about time people start making a positive effort.. it gets a little on my nerves... seeing some of the off color remarks.. its alway a good policy to treat people the way you would like to be treated.... ... and then everyone can come away with a good experience.. Greg

24th September 2006, 02:33 AM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,365	Thank you Greg and Carlo. I would think it very unfortunate if an entire forum and its membership were to be judged by the personal opinions expressed by a few of its members. Would you have us censor their opinions for just such a reason ?

24th September 2006, 02:48 AM	#3
Gt Obach Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 116	no... i realize that a couple bad apples don't spoil the barrel.. i guess i just got abit jumpy and had to say something about it.. .... its hard to sit back and read some of the posts... because i worry that it may turn some people off that may have benefited from the book.. Greg

24th September 2006, 03:02 AM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,365	Thanks Greg; that's good . Our Apples are not bad; they just have an opinion like everyone else in God's world . I think I have made my personal opinion about judging this work quite plain to all . We all have a lot of reading (or saving up to purchase) ahead of us before much of substance can really be expressed in critical judgement of Mr. Khorasani's efforts. I'm sure that he has put his heart and soul into this work; and who could ask for more of any man ? .. Rick

24th September 2006, 09:47 AM	#7
B.I Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 485	i still look forward to a more detailed opinion/review/critisism of the actual content, whilst forgetting who actually wrote the book. it is what is written that counts and i hope to be pleasantly surprised, as i always do when a new book comes out. yes, i am normally disappointed, but it doesnt stop me hoping for something of importance. kirill, i really value your opinion on the historical side, and look forward to your assessment, once read. as i do ariels. but, i think you should lose the dustcover, skip past the first few pages (with the authors name) and dive in and give us a great and open review. i dont think anyone would complain if your assessment was on the content alone, with all personal opinions put aside. i too havent agreed with the author in the past, but i am a collector, and desperate to fill my shelves with books to benefit my hobby. however, i am not a fan of empty gratitude. the author will be judged on what he has produced, which is more important than the efforts alone. as i have said before, i will judge the cataloguing in a strict way, as this is what i look for in a book. but even if my worst fears come true, i will always appreciate the chance to see the contents of 10 museums that i know i would never have known about. the cover price is guaranteed to be accepted by me, due to the inclusion of these museums. however, the cataloguing will determine which shelf the book ends up on - 'bloody useful' or 'coffee table picture book'