Ivory handle knife for comment. Arabic translation?

Bill M · 23rd September 2006, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by LOUIEBLADES

Bill

A real nice dagger. The hilt seems to be bone and not ivory. The way to confirm if it's ivory is to look for the cross hatch matrix in the ivory. If you are really upset about it not being ivory please feel free to send it to me. It will have a good home here in N.J.

Lew

Lew,

In hand, it seems to be ivory. The original seller is Fred Coluzzi and he thinks it is ivory.

If it is bone, it has a finer grain than I have seen before. Realize the handle is less than 3/4" in cross section so the pictures are quite an enlargement.

But it could be bone. I don't know. It is not a big deal to me one way or the other, I'd just like to know how to better determine what are the differences between bone and ivory and how to tell.

Thanks
Bill

Valjhun · 23rd September 2006, 03:26 PM

I think it is bone. At least all of thoose Bosnian bichak I've seen were bone. Also Balkan yataghans, there's always bone and not ivory.

spiral · 23rd September 2006, 04:41 PM

This site shows photos of the different angle of lines for identyfying both Elephant & mammoth ivory.{& bone features etc.

Spiral

link.

This is the Elephant one.

& mammoth.

Tim Simmons · 23rd September 2006, 05:14 PM

It looks a solid piece, 3/4 inch rather thick for most bone from the animals of the area. The few brown dot are hard to say with certainty blood vessel. It also looks quite fine. It could be from a toothed whale? from the Mediterranean/Black Sea? It does not have the soft look of well handled ivory?

23rd September 2006, 03:26 PM	#2
Valjhun Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 692	I think it is bone. At least all of thoose Bosnian bichak I've seen were bone. Also Balkan yataghans, there's always bone and not ivory.

23rd September 2006, 04:41 PM	#3
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	This site shows photos of the different angle of lines for identyfying both Elephant & mammoth ivory.{& bone features etc. Spiral link. This is the Elephant one. & mammoth.

23rd September 2006, 05:14 PM	#4
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,925	It looks a solid piece, 3/4 inch rather thick for most bone from the animals of the area. The few brown dot are hard to say with certainty blood vessel. It also looks quite fine. It could be from a toothed whale? from the Mediterranean/Black Sea? It does not have the soft look of well handled ivory?