New book: Arms and Armor from Iran

tsubame1 · 19th September 2006, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Flavio

WOW

i see the price on amazon and for sure is very expensive !!!!

Try asking directly Legat publisher. AFAIK is cheaper.

tsubame1 · 19th September 2006, 08:02 PM

@ Ariel. The copy I've handled for a while was rock solid binding.
You deserve a new copy from the publisher IMHO.
Don't let bad luck discourage you to appraise such a nice book.

@ Andreas : You're right about the word "definitive" but I think it has been used here with joyfully enphasis rather than to be taken literally.

ariel · 19th September 2006, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tsubame1

@ Ariel. The copy I've handled for a while was rock solid binding.
You deserve a new copy from the publisher IMHO.
Don't let bad luck discourage you to appraise such a nice book.

@ Andreas : You're right about the word "definitive" but I think it has been used here with joyfully enphasis rather than to be taken literally.

As a matter of fact, I kind of like somewhat tattered books (just like "very used" swords and comfort food

)
I am not going to use this book as a "coffee table" one (or, at least, I hope not!

) , so some feeling of wiggly binding does not scare me. I just hope the pages do not start falling out. Then, it's bad

Mumtazb · 20th September 2006, 09:28 AM

Is the binding just a bit wiggly or has it actually pulled apart, as is the impression I got from your first post?

Either way I cannot imagine there are many faulty copies which have been sold.

The book is quality! The materials used are quality, the content, the pictures...and it actually presents a good year or 2 of reading for me, not that I'm a slow reader, just that I have little time on my hands these days.

I would recommend anybody who has an interest in Persian Arms and Armour to buy this book

Andrew · 20th September 2006, 03:04 PM

Hi Mumtaz. Great to see you here.

Mumtazb · 20th September 2006, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew

Hi Mumtaz. Great to see you here.

Thanks Andrew....good to be here!
I just saw the keris forum today so that's an added bonus to this site

Doug M · 20th September 2006, 05:03 PM

Hello,

I absolutely agree with Mumtazb: this book is of the highest quality with over eight years of research within it. Both the text and catalogue sections are excellent. The text is all academic, and there is an extensive bibliography for you, the interested party, to start your own research.

The same quality goes for the binding. What has been described as "weak binding" is certainly out of the ordinary. For my part, I have held the book vertically quite a bit, and the binding holds well. I suppose if the book is manipulated while held vertically, it could damage the spine, but that is the same for any large book. A book of this siaze, as suggested, is best enjoyed if it is placed horizontally on a flat surface. However, that has nothing to do with the quality of the book's content: it has plenty to do with common sense. Keep this in mind when looking at it.

If one is interested in Persian arms and armor, this is, quite seriously, the best book on the subject. And I would like to say something about "definitive" as it has been used. If one thinks of "definitive" as a static thing, a definition written in stone, then this book is not "definitive." But if one thinks of definitions as things that change, particularly in academics, then this text is "definitive" as a starting point. Manoucher will be the first to state this. Regardless of how one regards this book, it is a fantastic starting point for future research.

Sincerely,

Doug M

Flavio · 20th September 2006, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by tsubame1

Try asking directly Legat publisher. AFAIK is cheaper.

Thank you Tsubame, yes the price is more reasonable

Lee · 20th September 2006, 03:47 PM

Ordering directly from the publisher via the link above and paying with their linked PayPal option cost 177 euros ($230) including air frieght.

tsubame1 · 21st September 2006, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Flavio

Thank you Tsubame, yes the price is more reasonable

Flavio, if you're italian and live around Milan or can reach me in an easy way,
a friend of mine has just received the copy that will be presented to me as a gift for a past favour I (joyfully) made. If you want to see it personally before spill an anyway considerable amount of money, PM me.

BTW the person I mentioned collects persian swords (too, not only) and refers to the book as "something never view before" and *underpriced* for its level. Being over than 70 y.o. and still working for the Università Statale in Milano, I can assure you that access to sources, time and knowledge has never been a problem for such a person. I've seen his copy during my last visit (see keris forum) and now I'm trying to find out a place in my library.
I know nuts about persian weaponry, but it is a must to better know metallurgy in other countries if I want fully understand japaneses one.

19th September 2006, 08:02 PM	#2
tsubame1 Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Magenta, Northern Italy Posts: 123	@ Ariel. The copy I've handled for a while was rock solid binding. You deserve a new copy from the publisher IMHO. Don't let bad luck discourage you to appraise such a nice book. @ Andreas : You're right about the word "definitive" but I think it has been used here with joyfully enphasis rather than to be taken literally.

20th September 2006, 09:28 AM	#4
Mumtazb Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3	Is the binding just a bit wiggly or has it actually pulled apart, as is the impression I got from your first post? Either way I cannot imagine there are many faulty copies which have been sold. The book is quality! The materials used are quality, the content, the pictures...and it actually presents a good year or 2 of reading for me, not that I'm a slow reader, just that I have little time on my hands these days. I would recommend anybody who has an interest in Persian Arms and Armour to buy this book

20th September 2006, 03:04 PM	#5
Andrew Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,725	Hi Mumtaz. Great to see you here.

20th September 2006, 05:03 PM	#7
Doug M Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 10	Hello, I absolutely agree with Mumtazb: this book is of the highest quality with over eight years of research within it. Both the text and catalogue sections are excellent. The text is all academic, and there is an extensive bibliography for you, the interested party, to start your own research. The same quality goes for the binding. What has been described as "weak binding" is certainly out of the ordinary. For my part, I have held the book vertically quite a bit, and the binding holds well. I suppose if the book is manipulated while held vertically, it could damage the spine, but that is the same for any large book. A book of this siaze, as suggested, is best enjoyed if it is placed horizontally on a flat surface. However, that has nothing to do with the quality of the book's content: it has plenty to do with common sense. Keep this in mind when looking at it. If one is interested in Persian arms and armor, this is, quite seriously, the best book on the subject. And I would like to say something about "definitive" as it has been used. If one thinks of "definitive" as a static thing, a definition written in stone, then this book is not "definitive." But if one thinks of definitions as things that change, particularly in academics, then this text is "definitive" as a starting point. Manoucher will be the first to state this. Regardless of how one regards this book, it is a fantastic starting point for future research. Sincerely, Doug M

20th September 2006, 03:47 PM	#9
Lee EAAF Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Upstate New York, USA Posts: 932	Ordering directly from the publisher via the link above and paying with their linked PayPal option cost 177 euros ($230) including air frieght.