Help with Sword ID

Tim Simmons · 28th August 2006, 05:25 PM

Hmmm. One could say that about a great many ethno weapons. How many people have you cut with one? I would not want to be faced with a man wielding one in my village

Andrew · 28th August 2006, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

Hmmm. One could say that about a great many ethno weapons. How many people have you cut with one? I would not want to be faced with a man wielding one in my village

lol. I understand what you're saying, Tim. Yes: even a poorly made "wall hanger" can hurt, kill or maim someone. Even a pencil can kill.

Maybe we need to define "use"? To me a "user" darb is a weapon with a hardened blade and a handle fixation method sufficient to withstand repeated swings, cuts, blocks and impacts without failing.

Tim Simmons · 28th August 2006, 09:24 PM

Yes we could be talking about two very different weapons. One a specialist, a knight? in some kind of bonded service. The other like my example, really no wall hanger, just a cheaper village weapon. The blade is far from soft and the balance is good. Not every village is going to have a princely guard. Playing with these things out of context might not always add to the sum of knowledge

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Mark · 28th August 2006, 11:12 PM

I'd just want something that wouldn't leave me holding an empty handle in mid-battle.

RhysMichael · 29th August 2006, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew

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understand what you're saying, Tim. Yes: even a poorly made "wall hanger" can hurt, kill or maim someone. Even a pencil can kill.
Maybe we need to define "use"? To me a "user" darb is a weapon with a hardened blade and a handle fixation method sufficient to withstand repeated swings, cuts, blocks and impacts without failing.

I look at it the same way, Andrew
Of course the others could be used as a weapon or tool but not repeatedly so. I can take a piece of aluminum and grind an edge on it and it would cut a couple of times before denting enough to dull but still that would not be what I would call a use sword.

PUFF · 31st August 2006, 05:15 AM

The through/peened tang is definitly Aranyik's product. The blade was mainly made as a tourist piece. But I think there 's a harden line on it. And it 's thickness/taper 's somewhat better than a typical steel sheat piece.

I understand Tim's point. Although the blade may not stand abusive used like battlefield or Krabi-Krabong practice like this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QieYT...elated&search=

but the blade is more than enough for household use such as killing a snake, drive foxes, dogs or cats away from hen house or even hold against unwelcome [night] visitor.

I would like to regard this piece as a modern, household blade. Although in this modern age of guns, a sharpen blade with reasonable construct could be handy in a right situation.

Tim Simmons · 31st August 2006, 05:24 PM

Obviously I favour Puffs opinion. This would also explain why the lady porters in the film "Bridge over the river Kwai" were portrayed carrying such swords. I am not completely silly when handling weapons having spent over a decade fencing under an ex European champion. I know these are not old grand weapons. I just do not see them as made for the tourist market, the work on the scabbard is really quite fine. I show the whole thing with a "tourist" knife.

Tim Simmons · 31st August 2006, 06:03 PM

I found this picture of another flying blade. I hope he will not mind.

Andrew · 31st August 2006, 06:21 PM

These do come in a wide range of quality.

31st August 2006, 05:24 PM	#7
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,843	Obviously I favour Puffs opinion. This would also explain why the lady porters in the film "Bridge over the river Kwai" were portrayed carrying such swords. I am not completely silly when handling weapons having spent over a decade fencing under an ex European champion. I know these are not old grand weapons. I just do not see them as made for the tourist market, the work on the scabbard is really quite fine. I show the whole thing with a "tourist" knife. Attached Images

28th August 2006, 05:25 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,843	Hmmm. One could say that about a great many ethno weapons. How many people have you cut with one? I would not want to be faced with a man wielding one in my village

28th August 2006, 09:24 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,843	Yes we could be talking about two very different weapons. One a specialist, a knight? in some kind of bonded service. The other like my example, really no wall hanger, just a cheaper village weapon. The blade is far from soft and the balance is good. Not every village is going to have a princely guard. Playing with these things out of context might not always add to the sum of knowledge .

28th August 2006, 11:12 PM	#4
Mark Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 987	I'd just want something that wouldn't leave me holding an empty handle in mid-battle.

31st August 2006, 05:15 AM	#6
PUFF Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 30 miles north of Bangkok, 20 miles south of Ayuthaya, Thailand Posts: 224	The through/peened tang is definitly Aranyik's product. The blade was mainly made as a tourist piece. But I think there 's a harden line on it. And it 's thickness/taper 's somewhat better than a typical steel sheat piece. I understand Tim's point. Although the blade may not stand abusive used like battlefield or Krabi-Krabong practice like this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QieYT...elated&search= but the blade is more than enough for household use such as killing a snake, drive foxes, dogs or cats away from hen house or even hold against unwelcome [night] visitor. I would like to regard this piece as a modern, household blade. Although in this modern age of guns, a sharpen blade with reasonable construct could be handy in a right situation.

31st August 2006, 06:03 PM	#8
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,843	I found this picture of another flying blade. I hope he will not mind.

31st August 2006, 06:21 PM	#9
Andrew Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,725	These do come in a wide range of quality.