Weapon Design Project

Battara · 26th August 2006, 08:00 PM

I'd be interested and curious.

Bring them on!

VANDOO · 27th August 2006, 08:32 PM

WELCOME! I WOULD ALSO BE INTERESTED IN SEEING WHAT YOU HAVE PRODUCED SO FAR. IT WOULD ALSO GIVE US AN IDEA AS TO WHAT SORTS OF WEAPONS YOU FAVOR MOST. I AM SURE YOU CAN GET SOME IDEAS FROM THE MEMBERS ONCE THE BALL GETS ROLLING. BUT ALUMINUM BLADES DOES KIND OF FREAK OUT US PURIST'S

son of oaf · 28th August 2006, 12:01 PM

LOL

i'll get some photos sorted asap.
The aluminium blades give us a chance to train the techniques and try stuff out with something that will at least be the same shape as a traditional weapon (if not the right weight, balance etc).
although elements of what we do is stick based, there are also other aspects that are "from the blade" and this gives us an opportunity to have a play and learn a bit more.

The other interesting thing is that because many of these are custom jobs for individuals there are a lot of strange variations appearing.
preferences in terms of grip, size of blade etc as well as bizarre custom requests have led to a few crazy hybrids.

i know one guy who has even replaced a barong handle with a custom knuckle duster!

i'm sure for some that's practically blasphemy!
but it's interesting to see a continuing evolution y'know? people are still trying stuff and seeing what happens. for me that's pretty exciting.

personally, for me the really cool thing is that we can try drills etc with a variety of weapons. double barong vs. kampilan. staff and shield. whip and dagger. bolo vs. barong etc.

i'd love to get to train with axes, panabas, some different types of shields. and i'm positive there is so much more out there i've probably never even heard of!

if anyone was interested in seeing a training version of a weapon in their collection, i'm sure my buddy would be interested in making some testers (with the help of reference images and sizes).
we could even take some training photos and let you know how we got on.
it could be lots of fun.

in the meantime, i'll take some photos and get back to you.

thanks for your time guys..

all the best

Battara · 28th August 2006, 08:21 PM

The only concern I have about aluminum is that it is lighter than steel. But it does make it easier to wield and thus a little flashier for demos. Since I don't own any aluminum pieces, I had to use 2 of my antique kris for a weapons demo at 2 events. Very sharp! (accidently cut my pants on the first one when I had carpel tunnel syndrome in one hand!

).

son of oaf · 29th August 2006, 11:32 AM

whooops!
sounds like a lucky escape!

fair play to you though for demo-ing with live blades!

the gym that a train at doesn't enter comps or do demo stuff etc. and i myself would only ever class myself as an enthusiastic amateur (i've only been training a couple of years).
The training blades are only for training and (in very few cases), sparring drills

the aluminium weapons were only originally used in knife classes, but as time has gone on (and more people own training blades) sword applications etc have become a part of the classes.
we have always been taught how and when to treat the rattan stick as a sword etc. but now we can actually substitute it for a training blade which is great.

of course it can't really substitute the real thing, but it is great for range, angle recognition, co-ordination and edge awareness.

it has really brought another aspect of FMA alive for me.

thanks for the feedback and info. it's all really interesting.

i will get those photos!

Battara · 29th August 2006, 07:40 PM

Just for clarification, I am a professional amatuer.

I did the routine to indiginous PI music. Fun and flashy (and apparently dangerous

).

son of oaf · 30th August 2006, 10:13 AM

okay..(hopefully) here is a pic of one of the training blades.

simple barong with rounded edges for safety, mirror finished with a fake edge.

a second version of this design was made with a para-cord wrap handle, no polish and no fake edge, purely for harder training. it's took a bit of a battering but served me well for a good six months now.

the designs we have so far are pretty simple, taken from live blades or books.

anyone interested in this collaboration idea?
i can run designs past my mate, we'll pick a few and make them. keep you all posted on progress, training etc. should be a hoot...

thanks again for your time guys

30th August 2006, 10:13 AM	#7
son of oaf Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Newcastle, UK Posts: 15	okay..(hopefully) here is a pic of one of the training blades. simple barong with rounded edges for safety, mirror finished with a fake edge. a second version of this design was made with a para-cord wrap handle, no polish and no fake edge, purely for harder training. it's took a bit of a battering but served me well for a good six months now. the designs we have so far are pretty simple, taken from live blades or books. anyone interested in this collaboration idea? i can run designs past my mate, we'll pick a few and make them. keep you all posted on progress, training etc. should be a hoot... thanks again for your time guys Attached Images

26th August 2006, 08:00 PM	#1
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	I'd be interested and curious. Bring them on!

27th August 2006, 08:32 PM	#2
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	WELCOME! I WOULD ALSO BE INTERESTED IN SEEING WHAT YOU HAVE PRODUCED SO FAR. IT WOULD ALSO GIVE US AN IDEA AS TO WHAT SORTS OF WEAPONS YOU FAVOR MOST. I AM SURE YOU CAN GET SOME IDEAS FROM THE MEMBERS ONCE THE BALL GETS ROLLING. BUT ALUMINUM BLADES DOES KIND OF FREAK OUT US PURIST'S

28th August 2006, 12:01 PM	#3
son of oaf Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Newcastle, UK Posts: 15	LOL i'll get some photos sorted asap. The aluminium blades give us a chance to train the techniques and try stuff out with something that will at least be the same shape as a traditional weapon (if not the right weight, balance etc). although elements of what we do is stick based, there are also other aspects that are "from the blade" and this gives us an opportunity to have a play and learn a bit more. The other interesting thing is that because many of these are custom jobs for individuals there are a lot of strange variations appearing. preferences in terms of grip, size of blade etc as well as bizarre custom requests have led to a few crazy hybrids. i know one guy who has even replaced a barong handle with a custom knuckle duster! i'm sure for some that's practically blasphemy! but it's interesting to see a continuing evolution y'know? people are still trying stuff and seeing what happens. for me that's pretty exciting. personally, for me the really cool thing is that we can try drills etc with a variety of weapons. double barong vs. kampilan. staff and shield. whip and dagger. bolo vs. barong etc. i'd love to get to train with axes, panabas, some different types of shields. and i'm positive there is so much more out there i've probably never even heard of! if anyone was interested in seeing a training version of a weapon in their collection, i'm sure my buddy would be interested in making some testers (with the help of reference images and sizes). we could even take some training photos and let you know how we got on. it could be lots of fun. in the meantime, i'll take some photos and get back to you. thanks for your time guys.. all the best

28th August 2006, 08:21 PM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	The only concern I have about aluminum is that it is lighter than steel. But it does make it easier to wield and thus a little flashier for demos. Since I don't own any aluminum pieces, I had to use 2 of my antique kris for a weapons demo at 2 events. Very sharp! (accidently cut my pants on the first one when I had carpel tunnel syndrome in one hand! ).

29th August 2006, 11:32 AM	#5
son of oaf Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Newcastle, UK Posts: 15	whooops! sounds like a lucky escape! fair play to you though for demo-ing with live blades! the gym that a train at doesn't enter comps or do demo stuff etc. and i myself would only ever class myself as an enthusiastic amateur (i've only been training a couple of years). The training blades are only for training and (in very few cases), sparring drills the aluminium weapons were only originally used in knife classes, but as time has gone on (and more people own training blades) sword applications etc have become a part of the classes. we have always been taught how and when to treat the rattan stick as a sword etc. but now we can actually substitute it for a training blade which is great. of course it can't really substitute the real thing, but it is great for range, angle recognition, co-ordination and edge awareness. it has really brought another aspect of FMA alive for me. thanks for the feedback and info. it's all really interesting. i will get those photos!

29th August 2006, 07:40 PM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	Just for clarification, I am a professional amatuer. I did the routine to indiginous PI music. Fun and flashy (and apparently dangerous ).