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10th August 2006, 11:45 PM | #1 |
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It is a bit difficult to be too definite about blade origin when all that can seen is a part of the sorsoran, and the blade is being viewed wrong way around. A full length photo, with the gandik to the left of the photo would assist with identifacation.
That said, my feeling at the moment is that we are not looking at a Javanese blade, but I cannot yet see enough to be any more definite. |
11th August 2006, 12:05 AM | #2 |
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This one seems similar to the example shown .
I have a feeling it is Sumatran . |
11th August 2006, 12:56 AM | #3 |
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If i had you say i don't think i would vote for Javanese origins on this keris. I think it is probably Sumatran. This blade seems to have Bugis influences to me.
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If we're going to discuss pamor Raja Gundala I think that David is wise to suggest merging these threads to avoid confusion .
As I have said before unless the image presented is fairly unmistakable then personally I feel it is a matter left up to the individual . As for the dapur of the keris Zack has presented; I must reverse myself and say it appears Sumatran from what little I can see; the contrast in the pamor was my original downfall . Come in Zack; we need more visual input; I cannot make out anything concrete to my eyes in the pamor you have shown. Last edited by Rick; 11th August 2006 at 01:42 AM. |
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Thank you all.. for the reply. Here i include more photos for your viewing. I'm a bit confused now as what i've been told that the keris is of Bugis origin, but not Sumatra or Javanese.
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11th August 2006, 02:40 AM | #6 |
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The 1st blade looks like a bugis-influenced blade, probably a Straits piece.
Rick, yours although looks similar, but not the same. Metal composition is different and there are other subtle differences, as well. (BluErf could fill-in for the subtle differences... ). Last edited by Alam Shah; 11th August 2006 at 03:18 AM. Reason: added info ? |
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Thank you for the input Alam Shah; could you elaborate a bit on both pieces and their differences ?
I can see the difference in the contrast of the pamors . Could you possibly offer an opinion of the origin of each one ? Is there any signifigance to the open space between the gonjo and the blade in the greneng area on these two keris . Sorry to plague you with so many questions but my curiousity burns . |
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I can see; after some coaching, a skull like head with a swollen cranium and possibly a body below dressed in robes on Zack's sorsoran .
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Nicely dressed BTW, beautiful patina . I also love that display stand Zack. Did you purchase it or make it yourself? I am often stumped on how to display my Bugis keris since they don't really fit well in Javanese and Balinese holders. That one looks great. |
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12th August 2006, 01:37 PM | #10 |
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Thanks David,
For your input and appraisal on my Keris, for the Keris stand i bought it from Malay Art Gallery in Singapore. |
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