Yataghan inscription translation please

ariel · 9th August 2006, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Zifir

Hi efhitis,

the first inscription is

Tevekkeltu alallah ya Allah beni kurtar Sene 816 : I put all my trust to God, O God ! Protect (save) me. Year H 816/ Georgian 1413-14

The second one is:

Sahib mu'min Abdi Ağa : muslim (or believer) owner Abdi Ağa

If your dating is correct, this makes this Yataghan ~150 years older than the one belonging to Suleiman Kanuni (By Ahmet Tekelu) considered to be the oldest known example. I doubt it very much.

Zifir · 9th August 2006, 03:42 AM

I can say for sure that the script in the first picture has nothing to do with the early fifteenth century. I think the original script was the second one and the yatagan had no date. It is highly probable that someone later added the first script and the date.

ariel · 9th August 2006, 11:39 AM

I will sleep better

The entire ensemle looks 19th century to me and the blade is far too pristine for 15th century. I agree: latter addition of the inscription and a bit exaggerated to boot.

Also, the middle panel of the scabbard looks somewhat different from the rest. I suspect it was "renovated'.

9th August 2006, 03:42 AM	#2
Zifir Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Istanbul Posts: 228	I can say for sure that the script in the first picture has nothing to do with the early fifteenth century. I think the original script was the second one and the yatagan had no date. It is highly probable that someone later added the first script and the date. Last edited by Zifir; 9th August 2006 at 03:54 AM.

9th August 2006, 11:39 AM	#3
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	I will sleep better The entire ensemle looks 19th century to me and the blade is far too pristine for 15th century. I agree: latter addition of the inscription and a bit exaggerated to boot. Also, the middle panel of the scabbard looks somewhat different from the rest. I suspect it was "renovated'.