16th Century Dusack (Dussack, Tesak)

[Copycat]

Originally Posted by shayde78

Thanks for weighing in Tordens and Copy. I think the "why" is always expected here, so thank you for offering some thoughts. Also, beautiful piece, Tordens!

I habe additional pictures but it seems they're too large to upload. I'll have to resize them when I have time and post here. I'll also post additional sources that I used with pieces attributed to the 16th/17th century with some shared features.

Also, the auction site that listed this as "contemporary" also listed the authentic Pappenheim I was able to aquire as a "reproduction basket hilt" and sold it in a lot with a tourist El Cid sword, so their assessment is always suspect (and potentially beneficial to me).

As asked, if you know of anyone who was making reproduction of this quality, let us know. Because they are an expert bladesmith and master hilt maker and the labor costs for master craftsmen to make a reproduction like this would far exceed what I paid.

Thanks again,
-Rob

Please share better pictures.

Here is a beautiful sword made recently. There are plenty more. Unfortunately, I do not know their motives. Even as a copy, it's still worth a lot.

https://www.invaluable.com/auction-l...OqvZt9GtyOCF0d

[shayde78]

Here are some photos I was able to take in decent lighting Sunday

[shayde78]

apologies if any pics are posted twice. I also included a reference from a book (Weland's 'Sword Daggers and Cutlasses', 1991) that shows a representative example that I used to compare before bidding on the piece in question. Besides the Michael D. Long example, I had found another previously sold piece and I'm looking for that link, now.

[Copycat]

Thank you for the pictures. They are much more clear then the first pictures. The uniform pitting is a sign of artificial aging. Natural pitting is varied with clear steel, deep pitting and wide pitting. The false edge should be sharp right away and not gradually.

The examples in your books are tricky. They are museum examples, shot from a distance and one dimensional. The blackened hilt makes observation even more difficult.

But even then, you should still see the difference with the bars. They do not have the same diameter along their length.

I stand with with my previous assessment.The blades mark might be genuine from a contemporary smith.

[AHorsa]

Could you please send an image from the inside of the shell guard?

KR
Andreas

[shayde78]

Sure thing, Andreas - pictures of the inside of the shell guard