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Old 29th July 2006, 05:43 PM   #1
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I am very sorry this keris is new Madura. The pendok is from Bali. It is a new made keris that is made up from parts of Indonesia. Many keris now able to buy like this in Indonesia. Good to decorate.
They're both probably Madura blades Mudi ; no one claimed otherwise .
I'm getting the impression that you are saying these pieces are unworthy or rubbish .

Are you ?

Were I you I'd be pleased to see a resurgence in quality keris smithing in your (native?) land .

Still waiting for the true Bugis keris pictures ........
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Old 30th July 2006, 02:37 AM   #2
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Mudi, nothing to be 'sorry' about.

I know the makers of my keris and its sheath.
Hmmm, I didn't mentioned that it was made in Solo, did I?

Both are honest, well-executed new kerises.
Old or new, I prefer quality blades... just my personal preference.

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They're both probably Madura blades Mudi ; no one claimed otherwise .
I'm getting the impression that you are saying these pieces are unworthy or rubbish.
Hmmm... my sentiments exactly. What say you, Pak Mudi?

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Old 30th July 2006, 05:06 AM   #3
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I am sorry for confusion. My comment was only for keris in post 1 made by drdavid. Title of his post was Solo Keris. How can Solo keris have only handle in Solo style blade from Madura and pendok from Bali? Alam I did not look at your keris and my comment only about keris with picture in post.

I did not say about this keris being unworthy or rubbish as you say. I only say about what I see. I am sorry to make mad anyone about my comment.

Mr. Rick there has been no resurgence or to revive keris making. Empu still make keris in Indonesia. Most new keris from Madura not Empu made.

I am very busy at new school so no time to make photo of Bugis keris. When I have got the time I will post some. Already I post one from my father. Maybe you not see this one already?

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-...KerisBugis.jpg

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Old 30th July 2006, 05:24 AM   #4
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Mudi, I see where I have confused things. The title should perhaps have been something less definite than that I used. The blade is indeed from Madura, however I believe the pendok is from Java not Bali.
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Old 30th July 2006, 08:22 PM   #5
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Mudi, I see where I have confused things. The title should perhaps have been something less definite than that I used. The blade is indeed from Madura, however I believe the pendok is from Java not Bali.
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Old 30th July 2006, 10:40 PM   #6
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Very nice Rick, the pendok is an interesting design and the gambar especially good. The blade looks very elegant.
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Old 30th July 2006, 11:48 PM   #7
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Rick, your keris, the piece that I almost got...
Elegant lovely blade. The wrangka's wood is fabulous. Thanks for sharing...
What type of wood is it, Rick?

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Old 30th July 2006, 09:25 AM   #8
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When I have got the time I will post some. Already I post one from my father. Maybe you not see this one already?

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-...KerisBugis.jpg
Hi Mudi,

The blade is Sulawesi, but the sheath and hilt looks recent, and made-in-Bali.

Do you know Majabali?
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Old 30th July 2006, 02:41 PM   #9
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Mr. Rick there has been no resurgence or to revive keris making. Empu still make keris in Indonesia. Most new keris from Madura not Empu made.
Ahh I had absolutely no idea there was a whole new crop of Empus in (your?) country; has this happened overnight ?

So in your view any keris *not* made by an 'Empu' is not a 'real' keris ?

There are some very talented Pandai Keris and they do make some very lovely work such as drdavid's keris; many of them are from Madura and the last time I checked Madura was part of Indonesia . I'm sure there are many fine keris made in Jawa also but most of them are not made by 'Empus' .

I suppose he could have titled his post "Solo Style Keris With Maduran Blade and Parts From Other Areas of Indonesia " but I don't think it would have fit in the title window .
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