Odd Dimensioned Brit Dawes Bayonet ID

Will M · 7th December 2025, 05:45 PM

I would suggest the reference British & Commonwealth Bayonets by Skennerton and Richardson. Take into account that blade length can vary by manufacturer and by damage and repointing.
The book dates Dawes : S Dawes to 1803, W&S Dawes 1803-1815, S&J Dawes 1813-1815, J Dawes from 1815. It lists a carbine bayonet with 13" blade and 3 1/4" socket. However if your socket is 3" try comparing to nearest blade length to yours.

adrian · 7th December 2025, 09:21 PM

It is a socket bayonet for a carbine, definitely not for the Short Land Pattern Musket - the socket bayonet for that has a 4" socket of larger diameter and a 17" blade. There are a number of carbines that this might be for, and the Elliot is one of those; most Carbine bayonets remained largely unidentified as to exactly which arm they were for. I inspected quite a number of almost identical socket bayonets at the Royal Armouries earlier this year, all were unidentified. The D 9 is indeed D Company or Troop, carbine number 9 within that Company or Troop.

murph21 · 8th December 2025, 04:24 AM

Thank you all for the replies and info. I have ordered the Goldstein book and will look into the Skennerton book as well. Appreciate the insight as to it being a probable carbine bayonet versus the SLP musket. Gracias!

7th December 2025, 05:45 PM	#1
Will M Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: In the wee woods north of Napanee Ontario Posts: 416	I would suggest the reference British & Commonwealth Bayonets by Skennerton and Richardson. Take into account that blade length can vary by manufacturer and by damage and repointing. The book dates Dawes : S Dawes to 1803, W&S Dawes 1803-1815, S&J Dawes 1813-1815, J Dawes from 1815. It lists a carbine bayonet with 13" blade and 3 1/4" socket. However if your socket is 3" try comparing to nearest blade length to yours.

7th December 2025, 09:21 PM	#2
adrian Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 136	It is a socket bayonet for a carbine, definitely not for the Short Land Pattern Musket - the socket bayonet for that has a 4" socket of larger diameter and a 17" blade. There are a number of carbines that this might be for, and the Elliot is one of those; most Carbine bayonets remained largely unidentified as to exactly which arm they were for. I inspected quite a number of almost identical socket bayonets at the Royal Armouries earlier this year, all were unidentified. The D 9 is indeed D Company or Troop, carbine number 9 within that Company or Troop.

8th December 2025, 04:24 AM	#3
murph21 Member Join Date: Nov 2025 Posts: 7	Thank you all for the replies and info. I have ordered the Goldstein book and will look into the Skennerton book as well. Appreciate the insight as to it being a probable carbine bayonet versus the SLP musket. Gracias!