Madura Keris?

A. G. Maisey · Today, 08:12 AM

Rob, you've used 'condong leleh' rather than 'condong campur', I think most people would agree with this usage, in fact I used to use leleh rather campur all the time myself.

A few months ago I was pulled up on this usage by a Javanese gentleman whom I regard as pretty well educated in matters revolving around the keris, he made the point that 'condong leleh' implies a 'soft angle' whilst 'condong campur' implies an angle that is not quite right. What he said made sense to me, even though the more usual usage is as you have given it.

Currently I'm using 'campur' & trying to find out how many people disagree with this. Currently its about a 50/50 split.

Today, 08:12 AM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,085	Rob, you've used 'condong leleh' rather than 'condong campur', I think most people would agree with this usage, in fact I used to use leleh rather campur all the time myself. A few months ago I was pulled up on this usage by a Javanese gentleman whom I regard as pretty well educated in matters revolving around the keris, he made the point that 'condong leleh' implies a 'soft angle' whilst 'condong campur' implies an angle that is not quite right. What he said made sense to me, even though the more usual usage is as you have given it. Currently I'm using 'campur' & trying to find out how many people disagree with this. Currently its about a 50/50 split.