CoJang and rudus(?)

werecow · Yesterday, 04:20 PM

More pictures.

Sajen · Yesterday, 06:27 PM

Hi Werecow,

When I see it correctly, both of your examples are rudus.

Here a co jang I sold some time back and as comparison my rudus (sec. pic.).
It's the blade which makes the difference.

Regards,
Detlef

werecow · Yesterday, 08:01 PM

Ah, thanks Detlef. Interesting! If that is the difference then virtually all rudus I've seen are misclassified as cojang.

Maurice · Yesterday, 08:16 PM

Congrats with your find!
A very old rudoïh, with attractive laminated blade, and (sometimes present) typical engraving on the back.
The brass piece at the hilt is rather rare, and not often found....

werecow · Yesterday, 08:33 PM

Thanks Maurice! Yes, I've seen the brass on only a few examples so far. It ads a nice touch and unlike with all of my other blades from the area it seems to have kept the horn from cracking (at least where I can see - although the brass itself seems to have cracks on both sides).

Also, I just came across your explanation of the blade shape differences in this post. That clears it up even more.

Are the grips on these sword types interchangeable or are they also diagnostic?

werecow · Yesterday, 08:52 PM

Interestingly, in spite of the weight and mass distribution differences the POB for both swords is virtually identical at ~15cm from the bottom of the grip.

Yesterday, 04:20 PM	#1
werecow Member Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Leiden, NL Posts: 602	More pictures. Attached Images

Yesterday, 06:27 PM	#2
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,333	Hi Werecow, When I see it correctly, both of your examples are rudus. Here a co jang I sold some time back and as comparison my rudus (sec. pic.). It's the blade which makes the difference. Regards, Detlef Attached Images

Yesterday, 08:01 PM	#3
werecow Member Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Leiden, NL Posts: 602	Ah, thanks Detlef. Interesting! If that is the difference then virtually all rudus I've seen are misclassified as cojang.

Yesterday, 08:16 PM	#4
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,460	Congrats with your find! A very old rudoïh, with attractive laminated blade, and (sometimes present) typical engraving on the back. The brass piece at the hilt is rather rare, and not often found....

Yesterday, 08:33 PM	#5
werecow Member Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Leiden, NL Posts: 602	Thanks Maurice! Yes, I've seen the brass on only a few examples so far. It ads a nice touch and unlike with all of my other blades from the area it seems to have kept the horn from cracking (at least where I can see - although the brass itself seems to have cracks on both sides). Also, I just came across your explanation of the blade shape differences in this post. That clears it up even more. Are the grips on these sword types interchangeable or are they also diagnostic?

Yesterday, 08:52 PM	#6
werecow Member Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Leiden, NL Posts: 602	Interestingly, in spite of the weight and mass distribution differences the POB for both swords is virtually identical at ~15cm from the bottom of the grip.