Wahabite dagger ? or janbiyya?

[kahnjar1]

Wahabite is a term used by collectors and is not correct terminology for these daggers/knives. They are DHARIA (or Sabiki, Sabak et al). A book published by the King Faisal Foundation, Riyadh in 1991 (I have a copy) clearly shows these as Dharia.
If you go to gp's Post #7 above (last para) the dirivation of the term is clearly explained.
Some pics attached of Dharia I used to own.
Also more info here http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=17574 including hilt and blade style names.
Stu

[Jim McDougall]

Thanks Stu, the name game phenomenon, collectors penchant for localizing terms with weapon forms based on predominant associations with certain groups, ethnicity or any number of reasons. I did see one reference that noted that the Wahhabite term was indeed used in 'western' parlance because these were so commonly seen worn by Wahhabite tribesmen, Ikhwan.

Beautiful examples in your collection, breathtaking! Thank you for sharing them....I was hoping you'd come in here..this is your area!

[kahnjar1]

Originally Posted by Jim McDougall

Thanks Stu, the name game phenomenon, collectors penchant for localizing terms with weapon forms based on predominant associations with certain groups, ethnicity or any number of reasons. I did see one reference that noted that the Wahhabite term was indeed used in 'western' parlance because these were so commonly seen worn by Wahhabite tribesmen, Ikhwan.

Beautiful examples in your collection, breathtaking! Thank you for sharing them....I was hoping you'd come in here..this is your area!

Happy to add my 2 cents worth Jim. Hope this clarifys things for you.
Stu

[gp]

Originally Posted by Jim McDougall

Thanks Stu, the name game phenomenon, collectors penchant for localizing terms with weapon forms based on predominant associations with certain groups, ethnicity or any number of reasons. I did see one reference that noted that the Wahhabite term was indeed used in 'western' parlance because these were so commonly seen worn by Wahhabite tribesmen, Ikhwan.

Beautiful examples in your collection, breathtaking! Thank you for sharing them....I was hoping you'd come in here..this is your area!

Small addition :

The Ikhwan were not so much a seperate tribe but rather a militia made up from several tribe members :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikhwan

[Jim McDougall]

Originally Posted by gp

Small addition :

The Ikhwan were not so much a seperate tribe but rather a militia made up from several tribe members :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikhwan

GP thank you again for clarifying! Thats important to note.