Schiavona pommel - Page 2

dralin23 · Yesterday, 05:28 PM

The handles on Shaivona swords are indeed quite varied. Some have a hole in the end of the handle, which is connected to the handle basket by a hook, which gives it additional stability. However, most of the handles I've seen on these swords don't have this hook, even though the curved end on the basket handle is present on almost all swords.

Jim McDougall · Yesterday, 08:36 PM

Thank you Dralin for posting these examples, which really illustrate the broad scope of the schiavona hilt form, far beyond the confines of Venice as long generally held.

The first example with the unusual helmeted figure, any ideas on what this might represent?
The basket character on these hilts of course follows the basic trellis pattern, but with often subtle variations that have enabled some degree of classification. But the pommels are another story!

Also, on the last example, with the thumb ring, does this suggest European origin? Germany, Austria? The flammard blade is also unusual!

Yesterday, 05:28 PM	#31
dralin23 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 207	some other swordpommels at shiavona swords.. The handles on Shaivona swords are indeed quite varied. Some have a hole in the end of the handle, which is connected to the handle basket by a hook, which gives it additional stability. However, most of the handles I've seen on these swords don't have this hook, even though the curved end on the basket handle is present on almost all swords. Attached Images

Yesterday, 08:36 PM	#32
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,307	Thank you Dralin for posting these examples, which really illustrate the broad scope of the schiavona hilt form, far beyond the confines of Venice as long generally held. The first example with the unusual helmeted figure, any ideas on what this might represent? The basket character on these hilts of course follows the basic trellis pattern, but with often subtle variations that have enabled some degree of classification. But the pommels are another story! Also, on the last example, with the thumb ring, does this suggest European origin? Germany, Austria? The flammard blade is also unusual!