Small Keris for ID

HughChen · Yesterday, 12:00 PM

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HughChen · Yesterday, 12:01 PM

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HughChen · Today, 04:20 AM

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Can they be called Keris?

A. G. Maisey · Today, 08:32 AM

Yes.

The blades with integral hilts are keris that are used in ceremonies as offering keris. The ceremonies they are used in varies from place to place and the way in which they are used varies from place to place. Some people in Jawa use these keris as talismans.

They are called "Keris Sajen".

The ones you show are almost certainly modern (last 100 years) copies of old ones.

This type of keris was, & sometimes still is called a "Keris Majapahit", and before the origin & development of the Javanese keris was understood, many people believed these keris sajen to be the first type of keris. One of these keris was found placed in a stupa of the Candi Borobudur, this undoubtedly contributed to the erroneous understanding.

The other little waved keris is also a talismanic keris, but only the maker & the original owner would know what talismanic powers it is credited with.

The little twisted spike is outside the study of culturally recognised weaponry. Small spikes like this, twisted or not, with sharp edges or not, used to be carried by Javanese men & women for self protection, probably the most effective and practical form of this weapon was when a cock fight spur (taji) was mounted as a weapon. I did say "used to be carried", to a much lesser degree I believe they still are carried by some people.

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A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,019	Yes. The blades with integral hilts are keris that are used in ceremonies as offering keris. The ceremonies they are used in varies from place to place and the way in which they are used varies from place to place. Some people in Jawa use these keris as talismans. They are called "Keris Sajen". The ones you show are almost certainly modern (last 100 years) copies of old ones. This type of keris was, & sometimes still is called a "Keris Majapahit", and before the origin & development of the Javanese keris was understood, many people believed these keris sajen to be the first type of keris. One of these keris was found placed in a stupa of the Candi Borobudur, this undoubtedly contributed to the erroneous understanding. The other little waved keris is also a talismanic keris, but only the maker & the original owner would know what talismanic powers it is credited with. The little twisted spike is outside the study of culturally recognised weaponry. Small spikes like this, twisted or not, with sharp edges or not, used to be carried by Javanese men & women for self protection, probably the most effective and practical form of this weapon was when a cock fight spur (taji) was mounted as a weapon. I did say "used to be carried", to a much lesser degree I believe they still are carried by some people.