Is it a real Keris?

A. G. Maisey · 24th August 2024, 11:23 PM

I think so, but a full length pic would help.

HughChen · 25th August 2024, 08:13 AM

more pics

A. G. Maisey · 25th August 2024, 01:36 PM

Thank you HughChen.

I believe that we are looking at an East Javanese keris, or possibly Madurese. I had that thought that it might be current era, but I am now not so sure.

To form any sort of defensible opinion on age I would need to handle this keris, however, it is a real keris and I believe the abstract figures are intended as two nagas.

The dress is South Sumatera & appears to be recent.

I am not able to form an opinion on whether this keris was put together in East Jawa, perhaps Surabaya, or whether the blade was taken to Sumatera & it was put together there.

HughChen · 26th August 2024, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by David

Looks very much like a real keris to me. Double naga?

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

I think so, but a full length pic would help.

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Thank you HughChen.

I believe that we are looking at an East Javanese keris, or possibly Madurese. I had that thought that it might be current era, but I am now not so sure.

To form any sort of defensible opinion on age I would need to handle this keris, however, it is a real keris and I believe the abstract figures are intended as two nagas.

The dress is South Sumatera & appears to be recent.

I am not able to form an opinion on whether this keris was put together in East Jawa, perhaps Surabaya, or whether the blade was taken to Sumatera & it was put together there.

Thank you for reply, I think it looks weird and designed very modern.

A. G. Maisey · 26th August 2024, 03:58 AM

I do not understand "wired" in this context.

HughChen · 26th August 2024, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

I do not understand "wired" in this context.

Thanks for reminding, I've correct this misspelled word.

A. G. Maisey · 26th August 2024, 12:58 PM

OK --- got it.

No, it is not weird, nor is the style modern, it is totally legitimate, but it is the type of thing that modern makers in East Jawa/Madura like to produce, and to my eye, there are a couple of characteristics that do not say "old" whilst other characteristics do say "old".

From the pics I cannot form a defensible opinion.

25th August 2024, 08:13 AM	#2
HughChen Member Join Date: Aug 2024 Location: China Posts: 155	more pics Attached Images

24th August 2024, 11:23 PM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,992	I think so, but a full length pic would help.

25th August 2024, 01:36 PM	#3
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,992	Thank you HughChen. I believe that we are looking at an East Javanese keris, or possibly Madurese. I had that thought that it might be current era, but I am now not so sure. To form any sort of defensible opinion on age I would need to handle this keris, however, it is a real keris and I believe the abstract figures are intended as two nagas. The dress is South Sumatera & appears to be recent. I am not able to form an opinion on whether this keris was put together in East Jawa, perhaps Surabaya, or whether the blade was taken to Sumatera & it was put together there.

26th August 2024, 03:58 AM	#5
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,992	I do not understand "wired" in this context.

26th August 2024, 12:58 PM	#7
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,992	OK --- got it. No, it is not weird, nor is the style modern, it is totally legitimate, but it is the type of thing that modern makers in East Jawa/Madura like to produce, and to my eye, there are a couple of characteristics that do not say "old" whilst other characteristics do say "old". From the pics I cannot form a defensible opinion.