Converted Spike Tomahawk?

Sajen · 7th May 2024, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Interested Party

Detlef the first weld from #8 is beautiful. I strive to make those beautiful swirls on my welds. And yes, by all visible signs the OP is stick welded. My main question has been what did the socket start life as? Maybe a small mattock? That would naturally have a lug to weld the blade to, but it seems reshaping an ax blade on a mattock would be easier than the welding process. so maybe some sort of pipe?

IP, the pics I've taken from the net that mgolab can see what I am writing about. But, yes, I agree the first weld is a very good one. And yes, the OP is stick welded or mig/mac welded, who will know exactly. But it's important to note that the OP isn't in any way old/antique.
I guess that the piece started it's life as a small axe head, it was made longer at one point of it's history (which will be quite short

) but the welded-on spike is a very unprofessional work, especially the spike itself.
I don't need to be knowledgeable about tomahawks to see that even in the given pictures.
Regards,
Detlef

Sajen · 8th May 2024, 10:25 AM

I sincerely hope that Mgolab does not feel attacked but instead takes a calm look at his axe and takes note of my arguments.
I think it makes more sense to tell the truth, it can be disappointing but ultimately it's helpful. At least I hope so!

Sajen · 8th May 2024, 10:35 AM

Age question, please compare carefully.

First pic. OP, the others taken from old threads.

Lee · 8th May 2024, 03:04 PM

This forum exists so that collectors may receive assistance from more experienced collectors, even when the truth is not pleasant. I discovered the website that I linked to above after I bought a small "frontiersman's belt" axe at a rural estate auction. I wanted it to be true, but a few things didn't add up. The operator of that site will, for a nominal donation, provide an opinion on submitted photographs. My axe was judged as something reworked from a small claw hammer. I accepted my medicine gracefully. Ultimately, I did XRF and the condemnation was not surprisingly confirmed by the alloy. The estate was of a man who did bicentennial re-enacting. The above quoted website has an extensive gallery of forgeries as well as diverse genuine axes.

8th May 2024, 10:35 AM	#3
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,165	Age question, please compare carefully. First pic. OP, the others taken from old threads. Attached Images

8th May 2024, 10:25 AM	#2
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,165	I sincerely hope that Mgolab does not feel attacked but instead takes a calm look at his axe and takes note of my arguments. I think it makes more sense to tell the truth, it can be disappointing but ultimately it's helpful. At least I hope so!

8th May 2024, 03:04 PM	#4
Lee EAAF Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Upstate New York, USA Posts: 932	This forum exists so that collectors may receive assistance from more experienced collectors, even when the truth is not pleasant. I discovered the website that I linked to above after I bought a small "frontiersman's belt" axe at a rural estate auction. I wanted it to be true, but a few things didn't add up. The operator of that site will, for a nominal donation, provide an opinion on submitted photographs. My axe was judged as something reworked from a small claw hammer. I accepted my medicine gracefully. Ultimately, I did XRF and the condemnation was not surprisingly confirmed by the alloy. The estate was of a man who did bicentennial re-enacting. The above quoted website has an extensive gallery of forgeries as well as diverse genuine axes.