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Old 19th February 2024, 09:54 AM   #1
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Here some pictures.Sorry the first and second is upside down.
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Also to you, thanks for showing your example! Do you know where your example originated?

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Old 19th February 2024, 05:45 PM   #2
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Thanks, Detlef, I was hoping that you could tell me. My short piece looks similar to your example and I noticed that the short one had a star pattern comparable to the one belonging to Ankathus.
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Thanks, Detlef, I was hoping that you could tell me. My short piece looks similar to your example and I noticed that the short one had a star pattern comparable to the one belonging to Ankathus.
Hello David,

Your short one and the one from Akanthus could be European or European influenced American. The handle construction makes me think like this. Has the blade an end-to-end tang pened at top of the handle?

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Hi Detlef, yes,it's made in the area of the town of Siegen in Nordrheinwestfalen.These knifes are called " Knipp " and the owners often used it for decades and they were their personal tools.
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Hi Detlef, yes,it's made in the area of the town of Siegen in Nordrheinwestfalen.These knifes are called " Knipp " and the owners often used it for decades and they were their personal tools.
Hi Akanthus,

You live around 100 km far away from me and it seems that the people call such a sickle knife already different, I know the term "Knipp" but here it is called "Hippe"! My grandmother still used such a "Hippe" when she worked in the garden. Other terms are Heppe, Häbe, Hape, Säsle, Sesel and Gertel. Just different idioms.

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Old 20th February 2024, 04:49 AM   #6
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Great information; the tang goes all the way through the handle like yours. How old do you think my example is; are they still made? In this day of electric power tools, it is hard to imagine that they still are.
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Great information; the tang goes all the way through the handle like yours. How old do you think my example is; are they still made? In this day of electric power tools, it is hard to imagine that they still are.
Hi David,

You still can buy such sickle knives new so it's difficult to say how old yours or the other shown examples are but I guess they are minimum from the mid of the last century, maybe much older. Attached are pictures of examples I found online.

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Thanks for the information Detlef, those are some lethal-looking tools.
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Old 20th February 2024, 10:38 PM   #9
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This is a fabulous site about Billhooks~ https://www.billhooks.co.uk/. (I hope it's OK to link..).
An incredible collection & amount of information.

Most of my stuff is in storage right now but I've found images of some of them.
The first three images are of an old English Elwell blade I found and re handled, centre is Elwell's catalogue image. Just about every region/county in England had it's own shape of Billhook at one time, pattern's usually named after the county, the same with hammers.

Fourth & fifth image is a Portuguese style billhook that same as Fernando has shown already, many variations like it are typical of the Alentejo region, this one was used for grape vines.

Sixth images is a French Leborgne (& Elwell again), similar to Sajen's image above, I've also seen them branded Rinaldi, which I believe is Italian.
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