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			Hi Mansabdar, 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	Welcome to the Forum! That's a nice old helmet that you show. My estimate would be Persian, and the similarity is apparent in Gavin's post of the items in the Wallace Collection.  | 
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			Happy new year everyone ! 
		
		
		
			There are a few helmets that are similar in construction, but much nicer. 1 - in Louvre museum : It is given as Persian but with inscriptions in Arabic! Strange ! Two bibliographical references are given, both false : - Bashir, Mohamed (dir.), L'art des chevaliers en pays d'Islam : Collection de la Furusiyya Art Foundation, cat. exp. (Paris, Institut du monde arabe, 2007), Milan, Skira, 2007, p. 334, n° 321 - Moshtagh Khorasani, Manouchehr, Arms and armor from Iran : the Bronze Age to the end of the Qajar period., Tübingen, Legat-Verlag, 2006, p. 716, n° 407 2 - Wallace collection : Persian ? 3 - Two Alamy pictures unfortunately without sources 4 - One given as Turkish (Mossgreen Auctions 22/11/2009) I have a very specific question: - if it is a Persian model, why is it ignored by Manouchehr ? - if it is a Indian model, why is it ignored by G. N. Pant ? - if it is a Turkish model, what is the reference? I didn't find it in any book I would like to have a scientific source. Best regards,   | 
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