Is it a jimpul, help needed

[asomotif]

Hello Detlef,

How about a Gayang ? Or a Tilang Kemarau ?

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by asomotif

Hello Detlef,

How about a Gayang ? Or a Tilang Kemarau ?

Hello Willem,

I've considered both, but I am quite unsure about them too, as there are differences between these types too. But as I said, I'm quite inexperienced with Borneo swords, so it's not for nothing that I asked for help!
What would you say?

Regards,
Detlef

[werecow]

What sets these three (jimpul, gayang, tilang kamerau) apart? Is it to do with the tip shape? Curvature? Decorative elements?

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by werecow

What sets these three (jimpul, gayang, tilang kamerau) apart? Is it to do with the tip shape? Curvature? Decorative elements?

I've had a hard working day behind me but I will look for examples to show the differences. I think it's a mixture of all.

Regards,
Detlef

[Sajen]

Two possible "gayang" examples I found here in old threads. Both are from Charles Saunders.

[Sajen]

And here two possible examples of "tilang kemarau".

[Ian]

Detlef,

I think there are many similar swords shown here, and in other threads of the forum, with variously attributed names. Perhaps the different names reflect the usage of different tribal sub-groups for essentially the same sword, but with minor differences in embellishments or style of blade. To me, they come from a common family and were likely used in a similar fashion. Jimpul seems to be the most common term used to describe these swords, and I personally would settle for that designation, knowing that there may be alternative names based on subtle differences or geographic/ethnic preferences. For those of us outside the culture of origin, it may be extremely difficult to learn the subtle, and perhaps not very important, differences in terminology.