Swish of the Kris - For Wayan :)

Mick · 28th June 2006, 07:42 PM

Actually Sulawesi has a beautiful form of Bima in gold as one of thier Keris Handles.

nechesh · 28th June 2006, 09:03 PM

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Actually Sulawesi has a beautiful form of Bima in gold as one of thier Keris Handles.

That sounds cool Mick. CAn you point us to any examples?

kai · 28th June 2006, 11:25 PM

Hello Mick,

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Actually Sulawesi has a beautiful form of Bima in gold as one of thier Keris Handles.

I guess you're referring to that gorgeous keris which is shown for example in van Zonneveld (p. 58). However that one was "collected" by the VOC before the middle of the 18th century or more likely during the 17th century. Thus, this is probably a pre-islamic piece...

I don't doubt that some of these hilts persisted after the conversion of the Bugis to Islam but are there any later examples (like 19th c.) known?

Regards,
Kai

Mick · 29th June 2006, 12:49 AM

Here is a scan of one piece in the museum in Jakarta. I took it from Hamzuri's Petunjuk Singkat Tentang Keris.

A dear friend of mine (who has departed this earth) had a piece which was similar to this one. I do not know where this piece is today.

Don't know what happened. I'll try again.

Mick · 29th June 2006, 12:54 AM

One more time.

Looks like I'll have to read the instructions again. This thing is under 100kb. I don't know why it isn't taking.

The one from Hamxuri's booklet (based on the Jakarta Museum) is much better than the one in Zonneveld's. However, if I don't get this one to take after I mess around with it a bit, you all get the general idea.

Rick · 29th June 2006, 01:01 AM

800 max width ?

Mick · 29th June 2006, 01:12 AM

Thanks Rick. It waas 847.

nechesh · 29th June 2006, 01:40 AM

Thanks for the extra effort Mick. Well worth the wait.

Do you have any idea of the age on this piece. Obviously we DO have figurative hilts from Jawa and Madura that were made well past those island's conversion to Islam. I wonder if the same holds true for Sulawesi.

kai · 29th June 2006, 01:07 AM

Did you clicked on the upload button?

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Mick Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Orlando Posts: 104	One more time. Looks like I'll have to read the instructions again. This thing is under 100kb. I don't know why it isn't taking. The one from Hamxuri's booklet (based on the Jakarta Museum) is much better than the one in Zonneveld's. However, if I don't get this one to take after I mess around with it a bit, you all get the general idea. Last edited by Mick; 29th June 2006 at 01:06 AM.

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Mick Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Orlando Posts: 104	Actually Sulawesi has a beautiful form of Bima in gold as one of thier Keris Handles.

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Mick Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Orlando Posts: 104	Here is a scan of one piece in the museum in Jakarta. I took it from Hamzuri's Petunjuk Singkat Tentang Keris. A dear friend of mine (who has departed this earth) had a piece which was similar to this one. I do not know where this piece is today. Don't know what happened. I'll try again.

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nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	Thanks for the extra effort Mick. Well worth the wait. Do you have any idea of the age on this piece. Obviously we DO have figurative hilts from Jawa and Madura that were made well past those island's conversion to Islam. I wonder if the same holds true for Sulawesi.

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kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Did you clicked on the upload button?