Three swords from Central Timor

[Sajen]

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[milandro]

the top one appears to be a repurposed Hembrug Dutch " Klewang"( the Army and Navy weapon still in used in the NL by the marechaussee and formerly used by the KNIL army)

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by milandro

the top one appears to be a repurposed Hembrug Dutch " Klewang"( the Army and Navy weapon still in used in the NL by the marechaussee and formerly used by the KNIL army)

Yes, you are correct! It has a blade from a Hembrug klewang like I stated in #1. These swords Karel Sirag described in the book from Albert, "Traditional Weapons Of The Indonesian Archipelago" as "type c" have most of the time repurposed blades of European manufacture.
Thank you very much for the first comment!

Regards,
Detlef

[milandro]

cheers , sorry I have missed that part

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by milandro

cheers , sorry I have missed that part

No need to say "sorry"! I am glad you got the ball rolling!

[Interested Party]

I'm sorry to see these haven't created more discussion. I wish I had something to add as I find these interesting. Did the culture use straight blades as well?

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Interested Party

I'm sorry to see these haven't created more discussion. I wish I had something to add as I find these interesting. Did the culture use straight blades as well?

Thank you very much for interest!

And yes, there are straight blades as well but normally not by these "type c" swords which are attributed to the Antoni people.
Timor has many different ethnic groups, look for further information here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timor
And it's different when we speak about Timor (we mean normally this island) or when Indonesian people speak about Timor, they mean the complete Eastern Small Sunda Islands including Alor, Savu, Roti, Wetar and so on.
See also "Traditional Weapons Of The Indonesian Archipelago", when you have this book.
Attached is a picture of my South West Timor sword "type d" described by the same source.

Regards,
Detlef

[Maurice]

Originally Posted by Sajen

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Nice Timor swords Detlef,

But I'm more attracted to the Timorese 'Surik' kind of swords, from the 'Antoni' tribe.
And if they have an old VOC blade, than I can't resist them.

Kind regards,
Maurice

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Maurice

Nice Timor swords Detlef,

But I'm more attracted to the Timorese 'Surik' kind of swords, from the 'Antoni' tribe.
And if they have an old VOC blade, than I can't resist them.

Hi Maurice,

Wow, a great sword from Pantar (my personal guess)! I prefer these swords also but they are rare and most of the time very expensive.
But when I could choose a sword from your display I would prefer the pade in up!

Best regards,
Detlef

[Maurice]

Hi Detlef,

Thank you.
I've had several pades in the past, but I kept this 'Tawu' because of the typical Celebes 'Sangori' carved motif on top of the hilt (where the endcap usually is), which I never had seen before.
I would not be able to choose between one or the other. I like them both equally!
I don't want to 'hack' your threat, but here a photo (2 photos ) of the carving on the hilt.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Maurice

Thank you.
I've had several pades in the past, but I kept this 'Tawu' because of the typical Celebes 'Sangori' carved motif on top of the hilt (where the endcap usually is), which I never had seen before.
I would not be able to choose between one or the other. I like them both equally!
I don't want to 'hack' your threat, but here a photo (2 photos ) of the carving on the hilt.

Very nice pade Maurice and like you I've never seen such a carving at this place. I own four pade but not one has a carving at this place. Nice feature.
And for sure the surik is a beautiful sword as well!

Regards,
Detlef