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24th May 2023, 06:56 PM
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Shiny blade,
Do you think that a sanding/etching could reveal a pattern ?? |
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24th May 2023, 07:13 PM
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25th May 2023, 06:10 PM
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Thank you Maj-Biffy and Turkman Khan for your comment,
I'll try to etch it when I'll have a little time, Not a lot of chance but just for see... Kind regards |
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26th May 2023, 09:07 PM
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These type 'kora' are typically ritual weapons for sacrificing of doves if I recall. This one has the eye (for Kali) and the type of motif seen on these forms, as well as traces of red paint remaining in the pommel disc. They are said to be Bengali, which seems understandable given the proximity to Nepal, also the prevalent Rajput influence in these regions. The hilt style on this example resembles tulwar hilts from Rajasthan.
As far as I know these were not combat arms, as the Gurkha kora was, and would not have had wootz blades. I would be interested to know if any such ritual weapons had blades of wootz as such affectation would normally be to weapons of station or parade/ceremonial/court. |
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26th May 2023, 09:40 PM
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Kora
My 2 pence worth is, Nepalese and likely not wootz, it is very dui chira Kukri like to my eye, might be wrong though just a guess.
  . Snody
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27th May 2023, 02:56 AM
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In looking back at in discussions in 2007 and 2009 these and tulwar hilt kukris were looked at. Apparently the dual chirra (=fullers) kukri are not related to the kora type blade with cross section contours aligned with the dual recessions in the rebated blade end.
While it was noted that tulwar hilts did occur on some kukri blades, it seems that much opinion held these to potentially be 'durbar' items, however that idea was not conclusive. Most discussions over the years, seem to regard these kora (khuda) type blades in tulwar hilts were Bengali, that is West Bengal which was apparently regionally connected to Nepal and of course Hindu and Rajput influence was prevalent. None of these incongruent forms seem to have been combat weapons, the ones with elaborately decorated blades seem quite possibly 'durbar' while with the red paint, eye of Kali etc. these are ritual weapons. the 'chopper' type weapon seems to be in similar category, but the blade is more Coorg, from Malabar regions west Indian coast. |
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27th May 2023, 12:48 PM
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Thank you for the
precious informations, Two pictures illustrating the indian origin and fighting possibilty. Really similar models. Sure, on the web, I can easily find the opposite in a few minutes... I have a long nepalese kora with his traditional hilt shape ( I'll post a picture ) the tulwar hilt are as said usually indians. |
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