Interesting backsword with moon markings

werecow · 19th April 2023, 01:34 AM

Thanks for your thoughts guys. Unfortunately I don't have any information on the distal taper and I have no other images on the sword.

But having now looked at some of the other items the same seller had on offer (probably should have done that before posting here), some of them also looked very odd. And the patina also looks weird, so I suspect you're correct and they were modern productions being sold as antiques. Shenanigans! Clearly I still have a lot to learn. Sorry for wasting your time!

fernando · 19th April 2023, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by werecow

... Clearly I still have a lot to learn. Sorry for wasting your time!..

No time waisted. That's what we are here for

.

urbanspaceman · 19th April 2023, 11:58 AM

Everything is a learning experience for some folk. Time is never wasted, except when threads are ignored.

werecow · 19th April 2023, 12:27 PM

True. At least I learned something (and am happy I did not invest in that sword

).

On a related note, I'm a big fan of the few youtube videos and blog/forum posts that have been made comparing fakes to real antiques. Highly educational.

urbanspaceman · 19th April 2023, 12:32 PM

This sounds interesting.
Would you post some urls please.

werecow · 19th April 2023, 02:06 PM

Sure! I'm not very organized so I have not saved everything, but here are a few, mostly from IPostSwords and a couple of one-offs (Pin & Swords seems promising as a channel that might do more of this though). For a novice like me they had some interesting tips:

Analysing an Artificially Aged "Medieval" Sword (IPostSwords)

FAKE "ANTIQUES": British 1796 Heavy Cavalry Swords (IPostSwords)

FAKE "ANTIQUES": French Marines Sabres. (IPostSwords)

Fake French Court Sword - Artificially Aged Replica (IPostSwords)

FAKE Flamberge Rapier on EBAY - $18,000! (IPostSwords)

FAKE "ANTIQUES": 1803 British Light Infantry Officers Sabres (IPostSwords)

A French Imperial Guard Infantry Officer Sabre (Pin & Swords)

2019 CNES les faux sabres du Premier Empire par Bertrand MALVAUX (Experts CNES)

FAKE Cutlass or Fake Sword, and/or REPRODUCTION Cutlass or Reproduction Sword of US Navy M1860 Naval Cutlass (the pirate's lair)

If anyone else has any others to add, please post them here!

urbanspaceman · 19th April 2023, 05:04 PM

Thank-you; very kind. I'll put in some time and study it all.

19th April 2023, 11:58 AM	#3
urbanspaceman Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Tyneside. North-East England Posts: 577	no time lost Everything is a learning experience for some folk. Time is never wasted, except when threads are ignored.

19th April 2023, 12:32 PM	#5
urbanspaceman Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Tyneside. North-East England Posts: 577	Fakes on Youtube This sounds interesting. Would you post some urls please.

19th April 2023, 02:06 PM	#6
werecow Member Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Leiden, NL Posts: 553	Sure! I'm not very organized so I have not saved everything, but here are a few, mostly from IPostSwords and a couple of one-offs (Pin & Swords seems promising as a channel that might do more of this though). For a novice like me they had some interesting tips: Analysing an Artificially Aged "Medieval" Sword (IPostSwords) FAKE "ANTIQUES": British 1796 Heavy Cavalry Swords (IPostSwords) FAKE "ANTIQUES": French Marines Sabres. (IPostSwords) Fake French Court Sword - Artificially Aged Replica (IPostSwords) FAKE Flamberge Rapier on EBAY - $18,000! (IPostSwords) FAKE "ANTIQUES": 1803 British Light Infantry Officers Sabres (IPostSwords) A French Imperial Guard Infantry Officer Sabre (Pin & Swords) 2019 CNES les faux sabres du Premier Empire par Bertrand MALVAUX (Experts CNES) FAKE Cutlass or Fake Sword, and/or REPRODUCTION Cutlass or Reproduction Sword of US Navy M1860 Naval Cutlass (the pirate's lair) If anyone else has any others to add, please post them here! Last edited by werecow; 19th April 2023 at 03:40 PM.

19th April 2023, 05:04 PM	#7
urbanspaceman Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Tyneside. North-East England Posts: 577	Links Thank-you; very kind. I'll put in some time and study it all.

19th April 2023, 01:34 AM	#1
werecow Member Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Leiden, NL Posts: 553	Thanks for your thoughts guys. Unfortunately I don't have any information on the distal taper and I have no other images on the sword. But having now looked at some of the other items the same seller had on offer (probably should have done that before posting here), some of them also looked very odd. And the patina also looks weird, so I suspect you're correct and they were modern productions being sold as antiques. Shenanigans! Clearly I still have a lot to learn. Sorry for wasting your time!

19th April 2023, 12:27 PM	#4
werecow Member Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Leiden, NL Posts: 553	True. At least I learned something (and am happy I did not invest in that sword ). On a related note, I'm a big fan of the few youtube videos and blog/forum posts that have been made comparing fakes to real antiques. Highly educational.