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Since the only links (which i deleted because they were commercial links) that you posted were from dealer sites, that could tell us about the origins of the term under discussion, so it was not necessarily a poor assumption on the JustYS's part? But the term does pop up in some non-commercial sites so it is probably something that has some more legitimate usage. Of course this tells us absolutely nothing about when in might have first appeared in the general keris lexicon. I, myself, am not a linguist and know very little about the Javanese language (we can assume that any terminology applied to keris that is Bahasa Indonesian is not in fact old. When this post first appeared i googled the term and did not find anything that could really answer JustYS's question. My online translators translated the term to mean "Denial of Pregnancy", but these online translators are notoriously bad at transcribing these languages into English. So i had hoped someone like Alan Maisey might come along with some information as he has a much better grasp on the language than i do. I did find one source that gave the following description. Ngadal Meteng: Ada-ada tonjolan besar, gemuk, dan tidak menonjol. Again, bad google translator makes that "There are large, fat, and inconspicuous bulges." Though it translated Ada-ada as "there are" when i am sure that was indended to mean the ricikan of "ada-ada" which we probably all know by now as the central raised ridge of a keris blade. I also found a brief definition and a diagram in an online Keris Lexicon. This seems to imply that JustYS had the wrong impression of the meaning of this term and that it refers to the cross-section of the blade, not the shape of the length of the blade. This is another page that also implies the term is in reference to cross-section of the blade. https://bambangkhusenalmarie-wordpre...n&_x_tr_pto=sc (scroll to the bottom of this page) |
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