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Old 20th December 2022, 06:53 PM   #1
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Alan, i wonder what you thoughts are on the information Anthony received that this is a keris dhapur meant only for royalty. I guess i have a natural skepticism about such proclamations. And the choice of hilt seems unlikely for royalty.
Anthony, surely there were some other photos of this keris from the auction house. Are you able to post any. It looks like a nice keris. Congrats on achieving a long time desire.
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The "royalty" thing sounds like its in Grain o' Salt Country to me.

But there are lots of things I don't know, maybe I'm wrong.
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The "royalty" thing sounds like its in Grain o' Salt Country to me.

But there are lots of things I don't know, maybe I'm wrong.

Agreed Alan. And I thought this type is used for combat fighting back in old days.
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Old 21st December 2022, 12:21 AM   #4
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Perhaps Anthony, perhaps. At least the Balinese people did use keris in general as actual primary blood-letting instruments, not only as reserve weapons or talismanic weapons.
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Perhaps Anthony, perhaps. At least the Balinese people did use keris in general as actual primary blood-letting instruments, not only as reserve weapons or talismanic weapons.
And I think royalty , such word might NOT be correct, maybe nobility suits better. I try to figure out if an ordinary Balinese warrior can have such unique keris forged or it is reserved for nobility who has the fund and privilege to own a special 'dapur' keris.
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Old 21st December 2022, 12:57 AM   #6
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If we are trying to find a reasonably defensible class of person who might have owned this keris initially, I think that first we need to think in terms of time, ie, when was the blade made?

Then we can think in terms of wealth, ie, who was sufficiently wealthy to commission such a blade?


So question #1> how old is it?
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Old 21st December 2022, 02:01 AM   #7
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If we are trying to find a reasonably defensible class of person who might have owned this keris initially, I think that first we need to think in terms of time, ie, when was the blade made?

Then we can think in terms of wealth, ie, who was sufficiently wealthy to commission such a blade?


So question #1> how old is it?
On paper it is 19th century. I suppose so.
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Old 21st December 2022, 12:03 AM   #8
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Alan, i wonder what you thoughts are on the information Anthony received that this is a keris dhapur meant only for royalty. I guess i have a natural skepticism about such proclamations. And the choice of hilt seems unlikely for royalty.
Anthony, surely there were some other photos of this keris from the auction house. Are you able to post any. It looks like a nice keris. Congrats on achieving a long time desire.
Thanks David. But this keris has limited photo.
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