Some kind of dha?

Mark · 19th June 2006, 02:37 PM

Flavio,

Very nice blade. It is hard to say whether the hard edge is differential tempering or an inserted edge (both are seen). Differential tempering is most commonly done by heating just the edge and the quenching, which results in this kind of uneven temper. I think that the very different harnesses (seem from the much lighter edge area) might be from lamination. Is there any trace at all of a welding seam along the line where the two meet?

About the scabbard: I suggest not gluing it, as this is the traditional way scabbards (faak) are made in Thailand. The halves are held together by bands, rather than by gluing. Often braided rattan is used, but you may be able to find an alternative (braided wire, for example).

Valjhun: Yep, "vineger" = aceto.

Flavio · 19th June 2006, 09:02 PM

Hello Guys, thank you very much

. Mark, there is no traces of welding along the line or at least i can't see them. Yes, i will try to put togheter the two halves with some kind of wire: for me it's difficult to find here in Italy rattan, but i will try with a vegetal fiber that here we call it CANAPA and maybe in english is hemp, i think

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Valjhun i have sent you a PM

Tim Simmons · 19th June 2006, 09:10 PM

Flavio, these people might be able to tell you who is near to you to do restoration. They put me in touch with a lady who is repairing the scabbard of a talibon for me, she is only 60km south of my home. BasketMakers.com

Flavio · 19th June 2006, 09:34 PM

Hello Tim, thank you

! Guys, any idea on the socket on the point of scabbard? on the throat of scabbard there are two wooden nails per side. Any idea? could be for a brass mounting? thanks

PUFF · 20th June 2006, 02:25 AM

Braid hemp 's fine. Even metal (copper) bands will do.

The sockets at scabbard 's tip might be the place for another metal fitting, similar to one at the butt-cap (pommel?).

Mark · 20th June 2006, 03:40 AM

My guess is that the socket is actually due to a bit of wood coming off between the very tip of the scabbard,and a hole made for a peg to hold the two halves together. It is typical for the scabbard halves to be held together also with a peg through the end. Usually there is more wood at the tip of the scabbard so the hole can be set back, but in your case the hole for the peg seems to have been quite near the tip, allowing the peg hole to break completely out and make a notch.

Flavio · 20th June 2006, 06:10 PM

Thank you guys, i will post some pictures of scabbard as soon as the work is finished

19th June 2006, 09:34 PM	#4
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Hello Tim, thank you ! Guys, any idea on the socket on the point of scabbard? on the throat of scabbard there are two wooden nails per side. Any idea? could be for a brass mounting? thanks Attached Images

19th June 2006, 02:37 PM	#1
Mark Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 987	Flavio, Very nice blade. It is hard to say whether the hard edge is differential tempering or an inserted edge (both are seen). Differential tempering is most commonly done by heating just the edge and the quenching, which results in this kind of uneven temper. I think that the very different harnesses (seem from the much lighter edge area) might be from lamination. Is there any trace at all of a welding seam along the line where the two meet? About the scabbard: I suggest not gluing it, as this is the traditional way scabbards (faak) are made in Thailand. The halves are held together by bands, rather than by gluing. Often braided rattan is used, but you may be able to find an alternative (braided wire, for example). Valjhun: Yep, "vineger" = aceto.

19th June 2006, 09:02 PM	#2
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Hello Guys, thank you very much . Mark, there is no traces of welding along the line or at least i can't see them. Yes, i will try to put togheter the two halves with some kind of wire: for me it's difficult to find here in Italy rattan, but i will try with a vegetal fiber that here we call it CANAPA and maybe in english is hemp, i think . Valjhun i have sent you a PM

19th June 2006, 09:10 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,875	Flavio, these people might be able to tell you who is near to you to do restoration. They put me in touch with a lady who is repairing the scabbard of a talibon for me, she is only 60km south of my home. BasketMakers.com

20th June 2006, 02:25 AM	#5
PUFF Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 30 miles north of Bangkok, 20 miles south of Ayuthaya, Thailand Posts: 224	Braid hemp 's fine. Even metal (copper) bands will do. The sockets at scabbard 's tip might be the place for another metal fitting, similar to one at the butt-cap (pommel?).

20th June 2006, 03:40 AM	#6
Mark Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 987	My guess is that the socket is actually due to a bit of wood coming off between the very tip of the scabbard,and a hole made for a peg to hold the two halves together. It is typical for the scabbard halves to be held together also with a peg through the end. Usually there is more wood at the tip of the scabbard so the hole can be set back, but in your case the hole for the peg seems to have been quite near the tip, allowing the peg hole to break completely out and make a notch.

20th June 2006, 06:10 PM	#7
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Thank you guys, i will post some pictures of scabbard as soon as the work is finished