THE BORDER REIVERS.

Interested Party · 25th November 2022, 04:54 PM

What, who is the hawk, eagle eating?

Never mind. I found an answer https://www.scotsconnection.com/clan_crests/Graham.htm . I did not find out what the stork represented.

urbanspaceman · 25th November 2022, 05:02 PM

It is a falcon killing a stork... don't ask me about the provenance or intention.
If anyone knows - please enlighten us.

M ELEY · 26th November 2022, 03:55 AM

To be fair, many of the clans did not get along. There was frequent fighting between families and even in-fighting between members. The Highland clans didn't typically like the Lowlanders, etc. We even see this division when it came to the Rebellion periods. Not all Jacobites were Highlanders and vice versa. I've heard of the two separate groups of Clan Campbell, for instance, one supported the Bonny Prince, while the other King George I. So the Reivers weren't exactly a standout in this area. I think what made them 'infamous' was their ferocity, their refusal to 'take a side' and the fact that they did most certainly shake up the establishment on the English border. During their raids, no one was spared some grief, I imagine!

urbanspaceman · 26th November 2022, 12:28 PM

I have dragged this thread in an irrelevant direction I'm afraid; sorry Peter.

25th November 2022, 05:02 PM	#2
urbanspaceman Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Tyneside. North-East England Posts: 622	ornithology It is a falcon killing a stork... don't ask me about the provenance or intention. If anyone knows - please enlighten us.

26th November 2022, 12:28 PM	#4
urbanspaceman Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Tyneside. North-East England Posts: 622	Sorry Peter I have dragged this thread in an irrelevant direction I'm afraid; sorry Peter.

25th November 2022, 04:54 PM	#1
Interested Party Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Eastern Sierra Posts: 498	What, who is the hawk, eagle eating? Never mind. I found an answer https://www.scotsconnection.com/clan_crests/Graham.htm . I did not find out what the stork represented.

26th November 2022, 03:55 AM	#3
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,165	To be fair, many of the clans did not get along. There was frequent fighting between families and even in-fighting between members. The Highland clans didn't typically like the Lowlanders, etc. We even see this division when it came to the Rebellion periods. Not all Jacobites were Highlanders and vice versa. I've heard of the two separate groups of Clan Campbell, for instance, one supported the Bonny Prince, while the other King George I. So the Reivers weren't exactly a standout in this area. I think what made them 'infamous' was their ferocity, their refusal to 'take a side' and the fact that they did most certainly shake up the establishment on the English border. During their raids, no one was spared some grief, I imagine!