A double handed sword

kronckew · 29th September 2022, 02:31 PM

What is the weight? Point of balance (POB) along the blade?

The key word you used was 'flexible'. Victorian/modern repros tend to be overweight overly stiff and non-distal tapered, and have the weight too far forward (POB). Flexible, light weight is a GOOD thing. Grip may have been replaced at some point. Not terrible for it tho. Zweihänders and bearing swords are not in my area, so i'm sure others can get more detailed.

francantolin · 29th September 2022, 05:36 PM

Thank's a lot Kronckew for you message,

I wrote the total size ans weight :
163cm/64 inches long for 3,6kg/7,94 pounds.

Here some others measures;

-Handle 36cm with pommel but without guard.

-Quillons oversized for battle I think: 48cm long

- Blade 125cm overall , massive unsharpeded for the first 26cm.

Point of balance 20cm on blade after the guard ( cf picture ) I don't know if it's good or not, not easy to see how really landsknecht used it efficiently...

francantolin · 29th September 2022, 05:42 PM

The other side of the pommel ( same ''line'' ) and other pics...

Must be what is called a presentation-parade sword ( 19th century must be right )
But had these sword sharp-slicers edge ??

Anyway a nice baby toy

Kind regards

francantolin · 30th September 2022, 06:57 PM

Hello,

Sorry on avance for purists,

I had found the brown rusty patina too homogenuous and ''looking a little fake''
so I had three hours free time and could not resist to sand it with 1000 grain sandpaper /WD40...

For me, really better like that !

Blade shows old black rust spots
( and the end of the tip would be a little longer initially...)

francantolin · 30th September 2022, 07:21 PM

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NeilUK · 2nd October 2022, 12:29 AM

That's quite a good-looking sword you have there. You are right that its size and weight suggest that it is a parade sword as combat two-handers tend to be 150-160cm in length and nearer 2.5kg in weight. Is it genuine late 16th century? It looks to be well made, perhaps with a replacement grip and pommel. Overall my impression from both the crossguard and the blade is that it is a good replica, 19th or even 20th century. If you bought it as a replica then you have done all right.
Neil

francantolin · 2nd October 2022, 05:57 AM

Thank you Neil for your reply,
It was sold as a :
18th/19th replica of a 16th swiss double handed sword.
Low starting price, the opportunity to have one of these and not a cold steel replica...

Usually, it's a serious action house,
So, where are the 18th parts ?

The pommel and blade seemed old/ ok to me
( maybe naìve 18/19th century trusting ...)

During the same session, they were selling two other pieces sold as ''16 century style double handed swords'' without even the mention ''18/19th century'' for one and written '' probably 18/19 th century '' for the other one.
Starting price: 1500 € ... ( weight 3600 kg and +/- same dimensions ...)

The starting price for ''my'' sword was low
Often they make tender bidding system. ( main auction )
swords starting 300€ and ending 4000...
and sometimes unsold...

29th September 2022, 05:36 PM	#2
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 905	Thank's a lot Kronckew for you message, I wrote the total size ans weight : 163cm/64 inches long for 3,6kg/7,94 pounds. Here some others measures; -Handle 36cm with pommel but without guard. -Quillons oversized for battle I think: 48cm long - Blade 125cm overall , massive unsharpeded for the first 26cm. Point of balance 20cm on blade after the guard ( cf picture ) I don't know if it's good or not, not easy to see how really landsknecht used it efficiently... Attached Images

29th September 2022, 05:42 PM	#3
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 905	The other side of the pommel ( same ''line'' ) and other pics... Must be what is called a presentation-parade sword ( 19th century must be right ) But had these sword sharp-slicers edge ?? Anyway a nice baby toy Kind regards Attached Images

30th September 2022, 06:57 PM	#4
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 905	Hello, Sorry on avance for purists, I had found the brown rusty patina too homogenuous and ''looking a little fake'' so I had three hours free time and could not resist to sand it with 1000 grain sandpaper /WD40... For me, really better like that ! Blade shows old black rust spots ( and the end of the tip would be a little longer initially...) Attached Images

30th September 2022, 07:21 PM	#5
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 905	Last Attached Images

29th September 2022, 02:31 PM	#1
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,224	What is the weight? Point of balance (POB) along the blade? The key word you used was 'flexible'. Victorian/modern repros tend to be overweight overly stiff and non-distal tapered, and have the weight too far forward (POB). Flexible, light weight is a GOOD thing. Grip may have been replaced at some point. Not terrible for it tho. Zweihänders and bearing swords are not in my area, so i'm sure others can get more detailed.

2nd October 2022, 12:29 AM	#6
NeilUK Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Scotland Posts: 126	That's quite a good-looking sword you have there. You are right that its size and weight suggest that it is a parade sword as combat two-handers tend to be 150-160cm in length and nearer 2.5kg in weight. Is it genuine late 16th century? It looks to be well made, perhaps with a replacement grip and pommel. Overall my impression from both the crossguard and the blade is that it is a good replica, 19th or even 20th century. If you bought it as a replica then you have done all right. Neil

2nd October 2022, 05:57 AM	#7
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 905	Thank you Neil for your reply, It was sold as a : 18th/19th replica of a 16th swiss double handed sword. Low starting price, the opportunity to have one of these and not a cold steel replica... Usually, it's a serious action house, So, where are the 18th parts ? The pommel and blade seemed old/ ok to me ( maybe naìve 18/19th century trusting ...) During the same session, they were selling two other pieces sold as ''16 century style double handed swords'' without even the mention ''18/19th century'' for one and written '' probably 18/19 th century '' for the other one. Starting price: 1500 € ... ( weight 3600 kg and +/- same dimensions ...) The starting price for ''my'' sword was low Often they make tender bidding system. ( main auction ) swords starting 300€ and ending 4000... and sometimes unsold...