Movies and Edged Weapons Pt. 2

Federico · 28th January 2005, 11:11 PM

Watched the Legend of Suriothai a while back as well, was wondering if anyone knew where they got their sword props. Alot of them looked nice, and not egrigious touristy junk. Amazing assortment of lavishly decotrated dha. Very well done visually, the interview with director (a royal prince himself) was real cool, and would be interesting to see his other movies (well non-weapon related, still sounds like interesting stuff). Would have been amazing to see what could have been done with better trained actors (as has been stated the lead is not an actress but a courtier). Though the deleted scenes are awesome as well, a shame that they were cut.

Rick · 28th January 2005, 11:27 PM

Suriyothai , yes !
I've got that DVD , a wonderful film .

Speaking of films , has anyone seen The Ring of Fire a documentary series on Indonesia that was made in the '70's by the Blair brothers ?

I first saw it on PBS and loved it .

It is now available on DVD ; my lovely Wife bought it for me at Christmas (five hours long).

Naga Basuki · 29th January 2005, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Suriyothai , yes !
I've got that DVD , a wonderful film .

Speaking of films , has anyone seen The Ring of Fire a documentary series on Indonesia that was made in the '70's by the Blair brothers ?

I first saw it on PBS and loved it .

It is now available on DVD ; my lovely Wife bought it for me at Christmas (five hours long).

Was this the one that featured John Chang, "The Magus of Java?" Personally did not really like the book, but I do know a guy who claims to know Chang personally. Lives in Surabaya, Java. Chang does seem to have some real power.

Would love to see the DVD

Rick · 29th January 2005, 10:45 PM

The person in the film is referred to in the titles as dynamo Jack , could be him .
If I recall he was referred to as an acupuncturist, doctor/healer .
He did do some demonstrations , one included making a piece of crumpled paper catch fire .

That is in the East of Krakatoa chapter .

Anyway, a great cultural mind trip of a series .

www.mysticfire.com

moose · 30th January 2005, 05:06 PM

Andrew,
I don't want to give away the ending.

But the swords wielded from the back of the elephants are truly gargantuan.

Maybe I'm off base hear and they are not considered in the Dha family??

Looked like they were at first glance.

moose

Battara · 28th January 2005, 11:42 PM

I'm so pleased that everyone is enjoying "Legend of Suriothai".

Here is another movie by one of my all time favorite directors, Kurosawa: "Ran". It takes place in medieval Japan and the story line itself is an adaptation of Shakespear's "King Lear". Actually I recommend all of his films like "Kogamusha", "Seven Samurai", and "Sanguro", etc.

More recently I like the action and true sword play in the "Kill Bill" series.

Rick, yes I saw the Ring of Fire series and I thought it wonderfully done.

Rick · 28th January 2005, 11:56 PM

God help me , but I do dearly love Branagh's production of Henry V .

Battara · 30th January 2005, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

God help me , but I do dearly love Branagh's production of Henry V .

Rick that is my favorite rendition of Henry V as well.

BTW - on the backs of those elephants, I too thought those were considered dha. And "dha" fighting on the back of the elephants!

nechesh · 7th May 2005, 10:51 PM

OK, i HIGHLY recommend you all go see the new Ridley Scott film "Kingdom of Heaven". The repros in it are absolutely amazing, especially some of the Muslim armor. Beautiful swords, great battle scenes, but ultimately a film more about peace than war. The acting is great, the cinematography sumptuous and Oscar-worthy. Actually worth the $8.50 and a must-see on the big screen.

BluErf · 8th May 2005, 04:37 AM

It was a nice movie with laudable messages of courage, honour, love, peace, humanity, faith and very importantly, an attempt (not perfect, I agree) at unbiased portrayal of both Christian and Muslim sides. And Ghassan Moussad (portraying Salahuddin) has a laser-beam stare that will burn right through you

.

But too bad, many people who saw it were bickering over historical technicalities.

Now back to the arms and armour -- I like the part when Balian duelled with the Muslim cavalier for possession of the black horse. The sword (forgive me, but I do not know the name of it) used by the Muslim cavalier looked like a very efficient slasher with a mean chop.

Now, the close-up of Salahuddin's helm was a bit of a disappointment to my novice eyes. Having seen some of the more ornate helms put on auction before, I thought it could have been finer. But then again, functional armour may not be as ornate as parade fineries.

M.carter · 8th May 2005, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BluErf

It was a nice movie with laudable messages of courage, honour, love, peace, humanity, faith and very importantly, an attempt (not perfect, I agree) at unbiased portrayal of both Christian and Muslim sides. And Ghassan Moussad (portraying Salahuddin) has a laser-beam stare that will burn right through you

.

But too bad, many people who saw it were bickering over historical technicalities.

Now back to the arms and armour -- I like the part when Balian duelled with the Muslim cavalier for possession of the black horse. The sword (forgive me, but I do not know the name of it) used by the Muslim cavalier looked like a very efficient slasher with a mean chop.

Now, the close-up of Salahuddin's helm was a bit of a disappointment to my novice eyes. Having seen some of the more ornate helms put on auction before, I thought it could have been finer. But then again, functional armour may not be as ornate as parade fineries.

Yeah, Ghassan Massoud was an excellent actor for this character I liked his stare when they were bombarding Jerusalem at night.

About that Duel in the beginning, that seemed so real! I felt that in any moment one of the actors might hit the other by mistake. I also noticed how 'wickedly' curved and pointed that saif was! It seems like an excellent slasher. I also noticed a very important thing, when that cavalier dismounted and started fighting balian on foot, before he started attacking, he had his forearm raised and his sword's spin over it, with the tip pointing down. Is that some sort of arabian swordsmanship?!

Brucetroy · 25th November 2005, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by nechesh

OK, i HIGHLY recommend you all go see the new Ridley Scott film "Kingdom of Heaven". The repros in it are absolutely amazing, especially some of the Muslim armor. Beautiful swords, great battle scenes, but ultimately a film more about peace than war. The acting is great, the cinematography sumptuous and Oscar-worthy. Actually worth the $8.50 and a must-see on the big screen.

I agree .I loved Kingdom of heaven.
How acurate was it historically and what years did the events supposedly cover ?
Thanks for a reply .
Cheers
Bruce

nechesh · 25th November 2005, 01:50 PM

Hi Brucetroy. You probably responded to my post before moving on through the thread, but i think you will find the answers to you questions in the discussion that followed.

28th January 2005, 11:27 PM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	Ring of Fire Suriyothai , yes ! I've got that DVD , a wonderful film . Speaking of films , has anyone seen The Ring of Fire a documentary series on Indonesia that was made in the '70's by the Blair brothers ? I first saw it on PBS and loved it . It is now available on DVD ; my lovely Wife bought it for me at Christmas (five hours long).

30th January 2005, 05:06 PM	#5
moose Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portage, Michigan USA Posts: 44	Movies and Edged Weapons Pt. 2 Andrew, I don't want to give away the ending. But the swords wielded from the back of the elephants are truly gargantuan. Maybe I'm off base hear and they are not considered in the Dha family?? Looked like they were at first glance. moose

28th January 2005, 11:56 PM	#7
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	Speaking of Shakespeare God help me , but I do dearly love Branagh's production of Henry V .

7th May 2005, 10:51 PM	#9
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	A must-see film! OK, i HIGHLY recommend you all go see the new Ridley Scott film "Kingdom of Heaven". The repros in it are absolutely amazing, especially some of the Muslim armor. Beautiful swords, great battle scenes, but ultimately a film more about peace than war. The acting is great, the cinematography sumptuous and Oscar-worthy. Actually worth the $8.50 and a must-see on the big screen.

28th January 2005, 11:11 PM	#1
Federico Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Minneapolis, MN, USA Posts: 312	Watched the Legend of Suriothai a while back as well, was wondering if anyone knew where they got their sword props. Alot of them looked nice, and not egrigious touristy junk. Amazing assortment of lavishly decotrated dha. Very well done visually, the interview with director (a royal prince himself) was real cool, and would be interesting to see his other movies (well non-weapon related, still sounds like interesting stuff). Would have been amazing to see what could have been done with better trained actors (as has been stated the lead is not an actress but a courtier). Though the deleted scenes are awesome as well, a shame that they were cut.

29th January 2005, 10:45 PM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	The person in the film is referred to in the titles as dynamo Jack , could be him . If I recall he was referred to as an acupuncturist, doctor/healer . He did do some demonstrations , one included making a piece of crumpled paper catch fire . That is in the East of Krakatoa chapter . Anyway, a great cultural mind trip of a series . www.mysticfire.com

28th January 2005, 11:42 PM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,345	I'm so pleased that everyone is enjoying "Legend of Suriothai". Here is another movie by one of my all time favorite directors, Kurosawa: "Ran". It takes place in medieval Japan and the story line itself is an adaptation of Shakespear's "King Lear". Actually I recommend all of his films like "Kogamusha", "Seven Samurai", and "Sanguro", etc. More recently I like the action and true sword play in the "Kill Bill" series. Rick, yes I saw the Ring of Fire series and I thought it wonderfully done.

8th May 2005, 04:37 AM	#10
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	It was a nice movie with laudable messages of courage, honour, love, peace, humanity, faith and very importantly, an attempt (not perfect, I agree) at unbiased portrayal of both Christian and Muslim sides. And Ghassan Moussad (portraying Salahuddin) has a laser-beam stare that will burn right through you . But too bad, many people who saw it were bickering over historical technicalities. Now back to the arms and armour -- I like the part when Balian duelled with the Muslim cavalier for possession of the black horse. The sword (forgive me, but I do not know the name of it) used by the Muslim cavalier looked like a very efficient slasher with a mean chop. Now, the close-up of Salahuddin's helm was a bit of a disappointment to my novice eyes. Having seen some of the more ornate helms put on auction before, I thought it could have been finer. But then again, functional armour may not be as ornate as parade fineries.

25th November 2005, 01:50 PM	#13
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	Hi Brucetroy. You probably responded to my post before moving on through the thread, but i think you will find the answers to you questions in the discussion that followed.