Kaskra translation please?

Tim Simmons · 14th June 2006, 10:33 AM

What is "Sanat"? It is not a place. I have been searching Islamic terms and the nearest comparison I have found is-

Sunnat or Mustahab means recommendable, desirable. The acts whose neglect is not punished, but whose performance is rewarded, e.g., the call for prayers (adhan).

Is sanat and sunnat the same thing in this case, a regional pronunciation or old spelling.

I can understand Al-Khartoum sunnat 1298, meaning -The Khartoum call to prayers 1881. Was this a festival held in Khartuoum or something more ambiguous? Or am I making it up as I go along?

S.Al-Anizi · 14th June 2006, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

What is "Sanat"? It is not a place. I have been searching Islamic terms and the nearest comparison I have found is-

Sunnat or Mustahab means recommendable, desirable. The acts whose neglect is not punished, but whose performance is rewarded, e.g., the call for prayers (adhan).

Is sanat and sunnat the same thing in this case, a regional pronunciation or old spelling.

I can understand Al-Khartoum sunnat 1298, meaning -The Khartoum call to prayers 1881. Was this a festival held in Khartuoum or something more ambiguous? Or am I making it up as I go along?

Sanat means year of, which is etched calligraphically under the numbers of 1298. It is different from "sunnat", which means the legacy of.

Tim Simmons · 14th June 2006, 12:39 PM

What about the other pieces of script, are you able to read it? Thanks Tim.

S.Al-Anizi · 14th June 2006, 03:13 PM

Well its hard to read, but I think it says "Ya Rab Nasruka Wa Rithak", "God we seek your aid and acceptance". The etching is very dulled out if you know what I mean, its hard to read the letters.

Tim Simmons · 14th June 2006, 05:45 PM

S.Al-Anizi

Just like to say thanks for your help on this, most enlighten. Your information has made me happy that I stuck my neck out on this item.

"God we seek your aid acceptance"

A pray made physical in this sword. Is most appropriate for the time and place. Whether from followers of the Mahdi or inhabitants of Khartoum wanting relief from bad governance or in fear of the pending conflict. I see no reason to doubt the date. Thanks again you have made it speak, in a way.

14th June 2006, 03:13 PM	#4
S.Al-Anizi Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Arabia Posts: 278	Well its hard to read, but I think it says "Ya Rab Nasruka Wa Rithak", "God we seek your aid and acceptance". The etching is very dulled out if you know what I mean, its hard to read the letters. Last edited by S.Al-Anizi; 14th June 2006 at 05:50 PM.

14th June 2006, 05:45 PM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,875	fascinating S.Al-Anizi Just like to say thanks for your help on this, most enlighten. Your information has made me happy that I stuck my neck out on this item. "God we seek your aid acceptance" A pray made physical in this sword. Is most appropriate for the time and place. Whether from followers of the Mahdi or inhabitants of Khartoum wanting relief from bad governance or in fear of the pending conflict. I see no reason to doubt the date. Thanks again you have made it speak, in a way. Last edited by Tim Simmons; 14th June 2006 at 05:50 PM. Reason: spelling!!

14th June 2006, 10:33 AM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,875	What is "Sanat"? It is not a place. I have been searching Islamic terms and the nearest comparison I have found is- Sunnat or Mustahab means recommendable, desirable. The acts whose neglect is not punished, but whose performance is rewarded, e.g., the call for prayers (adhan). Is sanat and sunnat the same thing in this case, a regional pronunciation or old spelling. I can understand Al-Khartoum sunnat 1298, meaning -The Khartoum call to prayers 1881. Was this a festival held in Khartuoum or something more ambiguous? Or am I making it up as I go along?

14th June 2006, 12:39 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,875	What about the other pieces of script, are you able to read it? Thanks Tim.