Miniature toy petronel info

corrado26 · 31st July 2022, 01:42 PM

In one of my drawers I found a toy miniature of a matchlock pistol unfortunately missing the cock. It is 77 mm long and made of bronce. The former owner once told me that this item has been found in the mud of the river Thames near London.

Raf · 31st July 2022, 02:13 PM

The ball but on this one looks completely wrong.

wheellock95 · 31st July 2022, 03:08 PM

Corrado did you get yours from the original finder as I see someone online is selling re casts of an original that are identical to your example ?

corrado26 · 31st July 2022, 03:39 PM

I got it some years ago from a collector friend, but do not know where it came from, sorry.

wheellock95 · 31st July 2022, 03:57 PM

Raf, would these more complex toy petronels have been quite a high end toy at the time ? As I can’t imagine these being cheap when first produced ?

Raf · 31st July 2022, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by wheellock95

Raf, would these more complex toy petronels have been quite a high end toy at the time ? As I can’t imagine these being cheap when first produced ?

A lot of the early ones are river finds from the Thames. Maybe a more affluent market. An image from Noel Hulme- All the Best Rubbish.
Sound advice

wheellock95 · 1st August 2022, 08:23 PM

Yes I’ve heard that they have found some in the Thames. My example was found in a field near Newbury, Berkshire in England. I am also in the process of purchasing one found in Scotland so it seems they were produced all throughout the UK.

31st July 2022, 01:42 PM	#1
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,226	In one of my drawers I found a toy miniature of a matchlock pistol unfortunately missing the cock. It is 77 mm long and made of bronce. The former owner once told me that this item has been found in the mud of the river Thames near London. Attached Images

31st July 2022, 02:13 PM	#2
Raf Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 252	The ball but on this one looks completely wrong.

31st July 2022, 03:08 PM	#3
wheellock95 Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 46	Corrado did you get yours from the original finder as I see someone online is selling re casts of an original that are identical to your example ?

31st July 2022, 03:39 PM	#4
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,226	I got it some years ago from a collector friend, but do not know where it came from, sorry.

31st July 2022, 03:57 PM	#5
wheellock95 Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 46	Raf, would these more complex toy petronels have been quite a high end toy at the time ? As I can’t imagine these being cheap when first produced ?

1st August 2022, 08:23 PM	#7
wheellock95 Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 46	Yes I’ve heard that they have found some in the Thames. My example was found in a field near Newbury, Berkshire in England. I am also in the process of purchasing one found in Scotland so it seems they were produced all throughout the UK.