Noptes: Polish Batorowka & Zygmuntowka sabres

wolviex · 28th January 2005, 06:06 PM

Tom: it seems that my mind is not such powerful as yours

. Now, when I get through the pages of English-Polish dictionary, I begining to understant what is your point. The construction of European weapon you're writing about is visible in 17th century, in example on small-swords, some rapiers and others edged weapons, isn't it? If so, I think you're right about influences of Polish sabre on modern European sabres, which appeared widely in 18th century, but didn't we discussed it at Radu's thread before? (about sabres development). Anyway, I think that classic Polish hussars sabre could have great influence on modern sabres. But it was just resultant of many eastern, Polish and western European influences, I think...
...or I'm still erroneous in essentia ...

Regards

tom hyle · 29th January 2005, 12:02 AM

That's pretty much what I was thinking about; I'm not sure this particular point was covered in depth in the other thread; maybe I forgot.....

wolviex · 30th January 2005, 10:28 PM

Tom I think you're right that we didn't discuss a problem of influences of Polish sabres on development of modern european sabres hilts on previous threads. Anyway here http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=108 at the bottom of a page is a diagram where you can clearer see how the development of sabres in Europe took place - more or less probably. But of course I don't mind if we dig it deeper just right here on this thread - more, I'll be even very happy

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Best regards

28th January 2005, 06:06 PM	#1
wolviex Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Poland, Krakow Posts: 421	Tom: it seems that my mind is not such powerful as yours . Now, when I get through the pages of English-Polish dictionary, I begining to understant what is your point. The construction of European weapon you're writing about is visible in 17th century, in example on small-swords, some rapiers and others edged weapons, isn't it? If so, I think you're right about influences of Polish sabre on modern European sabres, which appeared widely in 18th century, but didn't we discussed it at Radu's thread before? (about sabres development). Anyway, I think that classic Polish hussars sabre could have great influence on modern sabres. But it was just resultant of many eastern, Polish and western European influences, I think... ...or I'm still erroneous in essentia ... Regards

29th January 2005, 12:02 AM	#2
tom hyle Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 1,254	That's pretty much what I was thinking about; I'm not sure this particular point was covered in depth in the other thread; maybe I forgot.....

30th January 2005, 10:28 PM	#3
wolviex Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Poland, Krakow Posts: 421	Tom I think you're right that we didn't discuss a problem of influences of Polish sabres on development of modern european sabres hilts on previous threads. Anyway here http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=108 at the bottom of a page is a diagram where you can clearer see how the development of sabres in Europe took place - more or less probably. But of course I don't mind if we dig it deeper just right here on this thread - more, I'll be even very happy . Best regards