Pedang lurus?

Interested Party · 10th June 2022, 08:55 PM

A short sidebar before we start the discussion of this sword. Is this a pedang lurus or a pedang suduk maru? I have seen this shape described as both in discussions in this forum. See #7 on this thread http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ang+suduk+maru and also used in http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ang+suduk+maru among others
vs. the opinions on these threads http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ang+suduk+maru and http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...t=pedang+lurus and http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...t=pedang+lurus, which also line up with the book Traditional Weapons of the Indonesian Archiplago. Which is the correct terminology?

BTW I like this style of blade and the wayang figure on its hilt. I am curious who this represents. As far as paramor goes can I take a guess at pamor mlumah and a beras wutah variant?

A. G. Maisey · 10th June 2022, 09:54 PM

It is a straight bladed stabbing sword.

Lurus = straight (Javanese, Bahasa Indonesia)

Suduk = stab (Jav.)

Tusuk = skewer (BI)

the pamor is Wos Wutah (Beras Wutah), this is a random,laying down, ie laying flat against the blade core, pamor as opposed to pamor miring, ie, at 90 degrees to the blade core.

pamor mlumah = laying down

pamor miring = at an angle

The forms of pedang lurus vary a lot, opinions of sub-classification names vary considerably.

10th June 2022, 08:55 PM	#1
Interested Party Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Eastern Sierra Posts: 492	A short sidebar before we start the discussion of this sword. Is this a pedang lurus or a pedang suduk maru? I have seen this shape described as both in discussions in this forum. See #7 on this thread http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ang+suduk+maru and also used in http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ang+suduk+maru among others vs. the opinions on these threads http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ang+suduk+maru and http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...t=pedang+lurus and http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...t=pedang+lurus, which also line up with the book Traditional Weapons of the Indonesian Archiplago. Which is the correct terminology? BTW I like this style of blade and the wayang figure on its hilt. I am curious who this represents. As far as paramor goes can I take a guess at pamor mlumah and a beras wutah variant?

10th June 2022, 09:54 PM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,992	It is a straight bladed stabbing sword. Lurus = straight (Javanese, Bahasa Indonesia) Suduk = stab (Jav.) Tusuk = skewer (BI) the pamor is Wos Wutah (Beras Wutah), this is a random,laying down, ie laying flat against the blade core, pamor as opposed to pamor miring, ie, at 90 degrees to the blade core. pamor mlumah = laying down pamor miring = at an angle The forms of pedang lurus vary a lot, opinions of sub-classification names vary considerably.