opinions on this keris

Alam Shah · 28th January 2005, 04:34 PM

I think i'll have to agree with Sang Keris, it's dapur Putut Kembar...however
the gandik looks as though it's a different piece joined together, rather than shaped from the same bilah.

Sepang · 29th January 2005, 02:04 PM

Hi dear all,

I Agree with Henk and Sang Keris about the Dapor.

But.... Sang Keris said, "hmm... looks somtehing worng with this keris. I don't really think this one is an old keris." .... whats wrong

... But ...... I think so.

If I look closer, the blade can be made from old keris, but it like modificated be came a puthut kembar.
In Indonesia, specificaly Jawa, keris with dapor like this have a deep mystical side, so that many people who can making a keris made a dapor like this......
hope that they can selling with high price to some people whose believe the story or legend.

I have it too..., but I still confused.., it is real or not

Any comment ?

Montino Bourbon · 29th January 2005, 03:36 PM

Dear friends; thank you all for your expertise; I am very amused to see so many different opinions!
I have noticed that in the last week there have been several keris on the forum that seem (I want to stress the word 'seem') to have been artificially aged; I believe that this keris putut kembar has not been artificially aged, because this blade is in reasonable condition and not pitted by acid or burying in the earth.
Also, I tend to trust the source of this keris, who is quite well known as an authority on keris. Some of the keris that he sells are very well fitted, with fancy scabbard and fittings, but this one he kept as he found, and sold the same way.
Last but not least, I have had this keris close to me and have slept with it, and have gotten a clear vibration of age and wisdom from it.
I realize that this is very subjective, but at a certain level I feel that since much has been said about the spiritual effects of keris, it is important to consider it.
Please don't take my comments wrong; I greatly respect the members of this forum and their opinions, and would love to hear more on this. If I am wrong on this, that's fine. I wish that I could make this keris available to hold in your hand, but as has been stated in another thread that is one of the difficulties of being able to only see photographs.
More comments please!

Rick · 30th January 2005, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Montino Bourbon

Last but not least, I have had this keris close to me and have slept with it, and have gotten a clear vibration of age and wisdom from it.
I realize that this is very subjective, but at a certain level I feel that since much has been said about the spiritual effects of keris, it is important to consider it.

Montino , I suspect that you have already felt the chee of this keris from your above post .

Sang Keris · 29th January 2005, 03:36 PM

huh? whats the iron colour , sepang ?? is it green ??

looks like singosari keris....

Sang Keris · 29th January 2005, 03:53 PM

hi Bourbon

i think all of us didn't mean to offend you in any way ,....

normally putut kembar is a medium size keris , and wide blade...

and.hmm.. still don't think this keris is old.........

any other comment pls...........

Montino Bourbon · 29th January 2005, 05:52 PM

Dear Sang Keris;

I'm definitely NOT offended! I respect your opinion greatly, and I thank you for it!

Also, thank you for posting pictures of another keris putut kembar!

please keep it coming.

Sepang · 29th January 2005, 08:35 PM

Sang Keris, your identification is so clear

. My keris made from a green (or blue) iron. If you said it is tangguh Singosari, it could be, 'cause I got it from Malang, the place near from Singosari. TQ

Montino, be careful if you slept with your keris. It can be hurt you

Although we just seen kerisses from photographs, but we can look an iron and the curve and other thing we can.
Same if we seen your keris, the curve with puthut model, indeed a modificated from keris with dapor Brojol (common keris) in order to give a more value.
The curve look so sharp and like a new made. Not appropriate with the old blade..
I try to post my kerisses with the same dapur (I have four).
Maybe other forumities have anather opinion about mine.

Sepang · 29th January 2005, 08:51 PM

my another Puthut Kembar

29th January 2005, 02:04 PM	#2
Sepang Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 33	Puthut Kembar (Pandita Semedi) Hi dear all, I Agree with Henk and Sang Keris about the Dapor. But.... Sang Keris said, "hmm... looks somtehing worng with this keris. I don't really think this one is an old keris." .... whats wrong ... But ...... I think so. If I look closer, the blade can be made from old keris, but it like modificated be came a puthut kembar. In Indonesia, specificaly Jawa, keris with dapor like this have a deep mystical side, so that many people who can making a keris made a dapor like this...... hope that they can selling with high price to some people whose believe the story or legend. I have it too..., but I still confused.., it is real or not Any comment ? Attached Images

29th January 2005, 03:36 PM	#5
Sang Keris Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Indonesia Posts: 46	huh? whats the iron colour , sepang ?? is it green ?? looks like singosari keris.... Last edited by Sang Keris; 29th January 2005 at 04:06 PM.

29th January 2005, 08:35 PM	#8
Sepang Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 33	Sang Keris, your identification is so clear . My keris made from a green (or blue) iron. If you said it is tangguh Singosari, it could be, 'cause I got it from Malang, the place near from Singosari. TQ Montino, be careful if you slept with your keris. It can be hurt you Although we just seen kerisses from photographs, but we can look an iron and the curve and other thing we can. Same if we seen your keris, the curve with puthut model, indeed a modificated from keris with dapor Brojol (common keris) in order to give a more value. The curve look so sharp and like a new made. Not appropriate with the old blade.. I try to post my kerisses with the same dapur (I have four). Maybe other forumities have anather opinion about mine. Attached Images

29th January 2005, 08:51 PM	#9
Sepang Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 33	my another Puthut Kembar Attached Images

28th January 2005, 04:34 PM	#1
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	I think i'll have to agree with Sang Keris, it's dapur Putut Kembar...however the gandik looks as though it's a different piece joined together, rather than shaped from the same bilah.

29th January 2005, 03:36 PM	#3
Montino Bourbon Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Santa Barbara, California Posts: 301	Dear friends; thank you all for your expertise; I am very amused to see so many different opinions! I have noticed that in the last week there have been several keris on the forum that seem (I want to stress the word 'seem') to have been artificially aged; I believe that this keris putut kembar has not been artificially aged, because this blade is in reasonable condition and not pitted by acid or burying in the earth. Also, I tend to trust the source of this keris, who is quite well known as an authority on keris. Some of the keris that he sells are very well fitted, with fancy scabbard and fittings, but this one he kept as he found, and sold the same way. Last but not least, I have had this keris close to me and have slept with it, and have gotten a clear vibration of age and wisdom from it. I realize that this is very subjective, but at a certain level I feel that since much has been said about the spiritual effects of keris, it is important to consider it. Please don't take my comments wrong; I greatly respect the members of this forum and their opinions, and would love to hear more on this. If I am wrong on this, that's fine. I wish that I could make this keris available to hold in your hand, but as has been stated in another thread that is one of the difficulties of being able to only see photographs. More comments please!

29th January 2005, 03:53 PM	#6
Sang Keris Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Indonesia Posts: 46	hi Bourbon i think all of us didn't mean to offend you in any way ,.... normally putut kembar is a medium size keris , and wide blade... and.hmm.. still don't think this keris is old......... any other comment pls...........

29th January 2005, 05:52 PM	#7
Montino Bourbon Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Santa Barbara, California Posts: 301	Dear Sang Keris; I'm definitely NOT offended! I respect your opinion greatly, and I thank you for it! Also, thank you for posting pictures of another keris putut kembar! please keep it coming.