Twins of Sulu

kronckew · 25th March 2022, 02:16 PM

Cool Fraternal Twins.

kino · 25th March 2022, 02:42 PM

What a beautiful pair. I usually don't like polished silver pommels, but these two really look good polished. What's the dimensions of the Kris?
Thanks for sharing.

kai · 25th March 2022, 03:13 PM

Congrats, Ron!

Bob A · 25th March 2022, 05:53 PM

Great find, and very attractive silver work.

I can't say that I've seen silver pommels on these weapons before; I assume they're quite rare?

Battara · 25th March 2022, 06:23 PM

W

W! Congratulations!

One day when I grow up, maybe I can do the same.

Rick · 25th March 2022, 06:48 PM

Jose, do you think these were made using a centrifugal caster? Or would the silver stay molten enough to just pour the silver into the mold without leaving voids?

kai · 25th March 2022, 10:15 PM

Hello Rick,

Lost wax casting is not unknown in the region. However, I have not seen any genuine Moro hilts crafted by silver casting: too heavy and precious.

All antique silver pommels seem to have been made by good ol' silversmithing over a core of a resin/filler mix. The malleability of gold and silver really helps to fuse metal joints.

Regards,
Kai

kai · 25th March 2022, 10:19 PM

Hello Bob,

Quote:

I can't say that I've seen silver pommels on these weapons before; I assume they're quite rare?

You can find quite some examples posted in this forum.

They are neither terribly rare nor that common; ivory seems to have been the preferred material for high-end pommels.

Regards,
Kai

SanibelSwassa · 26th March 2022, 02:27 AM

Ron,

Congratulations on the incredible find!! These come to those they choose, and they choose well.

Enjoy

Spunjer · 26th March 2022, 03:18 AM

Kino:
blade is 22 1/4"; handle is typical 7"x3"

Kai:
if they had any other way, i'm not sure how the pommel on the barung was made. there's absolutely no seam. which made me think the dam thing is solid. the kris on the other hand, you can see where the seams are.

Bob A.
pleasure meeting you at the show!

drac2k:
as promised, here they are!

25th March 2022, 06:23 PM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	WW! Congratulations! One day when I grow up, maybe I can do the same.

25th March 2022, 02:16 PM	#1
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,215	Cool Fraternal Twins.

25th March 2022, 02:42 PM	#2
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,018	What a beautiful pair. I usually don't like polished silver pommels, but these two really look good polished. What's the dimensions of the Kris? Thanks for sharing.

25th March 2022, 03:13 PM	#3
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Congrats, Ron!

25th March 2022, 05:53 PM	#4
Bob A Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 435	Great find, and very attractive silver work. I can't say that I've seen silver pommels on these weapons before; I assume they're quite rare?

25th March 2022, 06:48 PM	#6
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	Jose, do you think these were made using a centrifugal caster? Or would the silver stay molten enough to just pour the silver into the mold without leaving voids?

25th March 2022, 10:15 PM	#7
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Hello Rick, Lost wax casting is not unknown in the region. However, I have not seen any genuine Moro hilts crafted by silver casting: too heavy and precious. All antique silver pommels seem to have been made by good ol' silversmithing over a core of a resin/filler mix. The malleability of gold and silver really helps to fuse metal joints. Regards, Kai

26th March 2022, 02:27 AM	#9
SanibelSwassa Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Sanibel Florida Posts: 104	Ron, Congratulations on the incredible find!! These come to those they choose, and they choose well. Enjoy

26th March 2022, 03:18 AM	#10
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	Kino: blade is 22 1/4"; handle is typical 7"x3" Kai: if they had any other way, i'm not sure how the pommel on the barung was made. there's absolutely no seam. which made me think the dam thing is solid. the kris on the other hand, you can see where the seams are. Bob A. pleasure meeting you at the show! drac2k: as promised, here they are!