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Hello Cerjak,
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The blade is imported from Java; it may exhibit contrasting pamor and respond well to traditional warangan "washing"/treatment. OTOH, most Bugis-influenced communities nowadays prefer to keep their blades only gently cleaned without staining though. Also the blade lost quite a lot of substance and might have lost most of its original pamor. The hilt is a very nicely carved example. Close-ups from all sides may help to place it more reliably. Still, these traveled or were traded widely. The selut is a bit unusual and not the best fit for this hilt; these often got swapped and recycled though. IMHO, the scabbard does not point towards Sumatra. I'd be inclined to place it within Sulawesi or Sumbawa (however, fittings also traveled - possibly with their seafaring owners). The two copper(?) bands suggest repair attempts. Close-ups of the wood might help, too. To sum things up, you certainly have a keris worn in a culture influenced by Gowa or Bone/Bugis culture (expat communities as well as many Malay and other communities receiving quite substantial influx/influence). Regards, Kai |
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Crossed post with Kai!
![]() Like Kai said, your keris is clearly Bugis influenced, Sulawesi or Sumbawa could be possible as well. |
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Hello Detlef and Kai
many thanks for your comments ,here some extra pictures, unfortunately of poor quality ,of course the copper bands are crude repair. What could be the age of this kris ? Best Cerjak |
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Hello Cerjak,
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For the probably even older blade, we'd need input from Alan, I guess. You need to post a hi-res pic of the full blade with the tip pointing up and the tapering end of the base pointing towards the right side (also try to have the separating line between the blade and the end piece exactly horizontal - the wave doesn't make this any easier). Also a close-up of the base of the blade (include all features) will be important. For both pics, make sure that you take pics from exactly vertical to the plane of the blade (it helps to remove the hilt - avoid any distortions and angled shots!) Regards, Kai |
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