Interesting Tenegre

Sajen · 12th August 2021, 09:54 AM

Hi Xas,

Indeed a great information! And the scabbard is covered in horn and has a leather throat!

And it's very similar to the one in discussion. So it can be from 1850 until 1900.

Regards,
Detlef

Ian · 12th August 2021, 02:00 PM

Hi Xas,

I followed up on your reference and found pictures of the sword and scabbard. However, I could find no mention of the horn plates and the picture is not clear enough (at least for me) to see whether there are any plates present on the scabbard.

The information I had about dating leather throat coverings and horn plates came from Federico Malabago on the old UBB Forum, now unfortunately defunct.

Ian.

Bangkaya · 21st September 2021, 01:06 AM

The brass insert is for aswangs. They still believe in aswangs on the island of Panay today. Usually, the whole blade is made of brass or copper, but on longer blades a piece of copper/brass is incorporated into the blades since brass/copper is too soft and will not hold an edge.

Bangkaya · 21st September 2021, 02:06 AM

Here's an Ilonggo plamenko with an all brass/copper blade. Its sole purpose is to be used on aswang.

drac2k · 21st September 2021, 02:28 PM

Thanks, Bangkaya.Good to know that I have a sword to battle man or aswang !

Battara · 22nd September 2021, 01:51 AM

First it's great to see you back Bangkaya!

Second, it's great to know now one of the uses of brass or copper on weaponry - aswangs.

21st September 2021, 02:06 AM	#4
Bangkaya Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 38	Here's an Ilonggo plamenko with an all brass/copper blade. Its sole purpose is to be used on aswang. Attached Images

12th August 2021, 09:54 AM	#1
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,165	Hi Xas, Indeed a great information! And the scabbard is covered in horn and has a leather throat! And it's very similar to the one in discussion. So it can be from 1850 until 1900. Regards, Detlef

12th August 2021, 02:00 PM	#2
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,361	Hi Xas, I followed up on your reference and found pictures of the sword and scabbard. However, I could find no mention of the horn plates and the picture is not clear enough (at least for me) to see whether there are any plates present on the scabbard. The information I had about dating leather throat coverings and horn plates came from Federico Malabago on the old UBB Forum, now unfortunately defunct. Ian.

21st September 2021, 01:06 AM	#3
Bangkaya Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 38	The brass insert is for aswangs. They still believe in aswangs on the island of Panay today. Usually, the whole blade is made of brass or copper, but on longer blades a piece of copper/brass is incorporated into the blades since brass/copper is too soft and will not hold an edge.

21st September 2021, 02:28 PM	#5
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,255	Thanks, Bangkaya.Good to know that I have a sword to battle man or aswang !

22nd September 2021, 01:51 AM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	First it's great to see you back Bangkaya! Second, it's great to know now one of the uses of brass or copper on weaponry - aswangs.