Frisian or Flemish wooden part of a carriage?

Ren Ren · 18th July 2021, 01:04 AM

I am not aware of the facts of the export of labor from the colonies to Europe before the 1st World War. But I cannot rule it out completely.

Saracen · 18th July 2021, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ren Ren

I am not aware of the facts of the export of labor from the colonies to Europe before the 1st World War. But I cannot rule it out completely.

You wouldn't say that people couldn't just travel, would you?

Anytime.
I do not think that the analysis of wood can give a reliable result, even if its origin is established. There are many explanations for the appearance of the Sinhala lion on a product made of European wood, for example, from the hands of a Dutch master who wanted to emphasize some of connection with Ceylon. His own or the customer's.

Ren Ren · 19th July 2021, 12:22 AM

Amazing things rarely happen. We both know how a little black boy from Abyssinia made an excellent career in military service in Russia - in the middle of the 18th century he was promoted to brigadier general.

Saracen · 19th July 2021, 06:13 PM

Such things happen more often, although this does not make them any less amazing.
Don't need to be a little black Ibrahim Petrovich

to keep in touch with the culture of a foreign country that has become close and surround yourself with objects of this culture after returning to your homeland.
The example of a "White Bedouin" seems to me more appropriate in the context of this discussion).

M ELEY · 20th July 2021, 07:09 AM

I could believe Singhalese lion as well, as they were often stylized. here's my hanger presumably made in Ceylon ca.1660 for the Dutch market-

kahnjar1 · 22nd July 2021, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Saracen

Such things happen more often, although this does not make them any less amazing.
Don't need to be a little black Ibrahim Petrovich

to keep in touch with the culture of a foreign country that has become close and surround yourself with objects of this culture after returning to your homeland.
The example of a "White Bedouin" seems to me more appropriate in the context of this discussion).

Your subject photo is of course T.E.Lawrence.....Lawrence of Arabia.
Stu

Saracen · 22nd July 2021, 03:08 PM

Yes, of course. "White Bedouin" is the name of a statuette by Kathleen Scott, for which Lawrence of Arabia posed.

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Ren Ren Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Russia, Moscow Posts: 379	I am not aware of the facts of the export of labor from the colonies to Europe before the 1st World War. But I cannot rule it out completely.

19th July 2021, 12:22 AM	#3
Ren Ren Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Russia, Moscow Posts: 379	Amazing things rarely happen. We both know how a little black boy from Abyssinia made an excellent career in military service in Russia - in the middle of the 18th century he was promoted to brigadier general.

22nd July 2021, 03:08 PM	#7
Saracen Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 147	Yes, of course. "White Bedouin" is the name of a statuette by Kathleen Scott, for which Lawrence of Arabia posed.