Jambiya from?

Battara · 16th June 2021, 04:17 AM

The repousse on these pieces is wonderful!

Saracen · 16th June 2021, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Battara

The repousse on these pieces is wonderful!

Yes, what I like about Oriental weapons is that you often can't see where the weapon ends and the work of art begins.

Tim Simmons · 16th June 2021, 01:43 PM

Thanks for the comments. I did not really expect such intrigue as I no little of this area. Where ever it was made it has a jolly nice blade, heavy and well formed. You can see where some hard rust spots were. The decorative elements though not my taste are very pretty. Could Gonzoadler be correct, Omani work to suit the makers eye rather than tradition? Anyway some close up pics. Thanks for the ideas.

PS I suspect the nails in the handle might be silver?

Tim Simmons · 16th June 2021, 03:09 PM

Thought I should include the back. I try google research Khanjar and Jambiya gets a bit confusing. How many Arab states wear these?

Tim Simmons · 16th June 2021, 03:34 PM

Doing a bit of comparison with old auction Omani Khanjar. Too my untrained eye my piece does show elements the same as these old examples. In that the scabbard is composed of three decorative sections. Admittedly the old examples have a separate decorated chape section. Mine does has a decorative suggestion of a chape. The old example shown with the blade out of the scabbard. Has the same but rather more crude, even though appears to be silver, flowing vine and flower design on the handle as mine.

Kubur · 16th June 2021, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

Thanks for the comments. I did not really expect such intrigue as I no little of this area. Where ever it was made it has a jolly nice blade, heavy and well formed. You can see where some hard rust spots were. The decorative elements though not my taste are very pretty. Could Gonzoadler be correct, Omani work to suit the makers eye rather than tradition? Anyway some close up pics. Thanks for the ideas.

PS I suspect the nails in the handle might be silver?

Flat blades like that are Indians. I think the whole stuff is in Silver (low grade)
Could be an Indian from/in Oman, or an Indian from India, even more original...

Tim Simmons · 16th June 2021, 06:42 PM

Defiantly silver wash over copper one side far more rubbed than the over on the handle.

Tim Simmons · 16th June 2021, 07:08 PM

I think Kubur may well be right. Arab communities in south India. A long time back I post here an Indian bowie with a very similar decorated copper handle the same kind of work but the blade had silver inlay like on Dha. The trade between India and Burma led to mixed communities. The trade and communities on either side of the south Indian coast have crossovers. I will make a search but I doubt I will find it. Not to mention Zanzibar and other areas of Arab influence.

Tim Simmons · 16th June 2021, 07:14 PM

Found it from India. Pics are not the best.

Ian · 17th June 2021, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

... Arab communities in south India. A long time back I post here an Indian bowie with a very similar decorated copper handle the same kind of work but the blade had silver inlay like on Dha. The trade between India and Burma led to mixed communities. The trade and communities on either side of the south Indian coast have crossovers...

Hi Tim,

I agree that commercial exchanges between India and Burma were reasonably common, especially after Britain took over much of Burma in the 19th C. The koftghari style of applying precious metal to blades is thought to have been imported into Burma from India. So I don't think we need to postulate a reverse migration for your knife. Using scored areas to apply and retain metal for decorative purposes is actually quite well spread in Southern and SE Asia.

16th June 2021, 01:43 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,843	Thanks for the comments. I did not really expect such intrigue as I no little of this area. Where ever it was made it has a jolly nice blade, heavy and well formed. You can see where some hard rust spots were. The decorative elements though not my taste are very pretty. Could Gonzoadler be correct, Omani work to suit the makers eye rather than tradition? Anyway some close up pics. Thanks for the ideas. PS I suspect the nails in the handle might be silver? Attached Images

16th June 2021, 03:09 PM	#4
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,843	Thought I should include the back. I try google research Khanjar and Jambiya gets a bit confusing. How many Arab states wear these? Attached Images

16th June 2021, 03:34 PM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,843	Doing a bit of comparison with old auction Omani Khanjar. Too my untrained eye my piece does show elements the same as these old examples. In that the scabbard is composed of three decorative sections. Admittedly the old examples have a separate decorated chape section. Mine does has a decorative suggestion of a chape. The old example shown with the blade out of the scabbard. Has the same but rather more crude, even though appears to be silver, flowing vine and flower design on the handle as mine. Attached Images

16th June 2021, 07:14 PM	#9
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,843	Found it from India. Pics are not the best. Attached Images Last edited by Tim Simmons; 16th June 2021 at 07:25 PM.

16th June 2021, 04:17 AM	#1
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	The repousse on these pieces is wonderful!

16th June 2021, 06:42 PM	#7
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,843	Defiantly silver wash over copper one side far more rubbed than the over on the handle.

16th June 2021, 07:08 PM	#8
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,843	I think Kubur may well be right. Arab communities in south India. A long time back I post here an Indian bowie with a very similar decorated copper handle the same kind of work but the blade had silver inlay like on Dha. The trade between India and Burma led to mixed communities. The trade and communities on either side of the south Indian coast have crossovers. I will make a search but I doubt I will find it. Not to mention Zanzibar and other areas of Arab influence.