Wild Bill Hickok and his pistols

fernando · 29th April 2021, 05:42 PM

As it has been a customary practice, more than ruling on the European concept in words, and for what this forum is concerned, things have been easy to differentiate. So we take it that, antique arms of a non ethnographic structure, be them American or provenant from the old continent, do fall within our European concept. Hence not a bow or a lance, but a musket, a pistol or a sword.

But i admit that, rather than visiting once more the well known biography of Wild Bill, i would never miss an episode of the Deadwood series

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Rick · 29th April 2021, 06:22 PM

Imagine if you had to watch it in a language censored edition. There would be more bleeps than words.

fernando · 29th April 2021, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Imagine if you had to watch it in a language censored edition. There would be more bleeps than words.

Indeed; lucky i watched it with subtitles and that part was already sanitized

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Jim McDougall · 29th April 2021, 09:53 PM

Very well said Fernando. When we created the "European Armory' the goal was to expand the scope of discussions outside the 'ethnographic' category, and quite honestly, as we figured the scope, the inclusion of American arms seemed 'given'.

It seems ironic that the most renowned biographer of Wild Bill, and the foremost expert on American gunfighters, was the late Joseph Rosa, who was British

Will M · 29th April 2021, 10:10 PM

In the beginning parts were shipped to London. Survival rate of the Navy Colts seems low. The link below has interesting information.

https://coltcollectors.com/colt-mode...ndon%20factory.

Jim McDougall · 30th April 2021, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Will M

In the beginning parts were shipped to London. Survival rate of the Navy Colts seems low. The link below has interesting information.

https://coltcollectors.com/colt-mode...ndon%20factory.

Great link Will!! Thank you!!
I had no idea the survival rate on these was so low. I actually think I got this one from Norm about 20 years or so ago, who can remember these days!

David · 29th April 2021, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by fernando

But i admit that, rather than visiting once more the well known biography of Wild Bill, i would never miss an episode of the Deadwood series

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Glad to hear you have enjoyed it. While i do not believe we should accept it as history per se, a great deal of it is surprising historically accurate. In all probability the language used is not, but it is "art". And the approach to the storytelling is absolutely Shakespearean. I would quote an infamous phrase from the show here, by fear i might find myself in a timeout for doing so. LOL!

29th April 2021, 05:42 PM	#1
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Is 'Western' a better definiton ? As it has been a customary practice, more than ruling on the European concept in words, and for what this forum is concerned, things have been easy to differentiate. So we take it that, antique arms of a non ethnographic structure, be them American or provenant from the old continent, do fall within our European concept. Hence not a bow or a lance, but a musket, a pistol or a sword. But i admit that, rather than visiting once more the well known biography of Wild Bill, i would never miss an episode of the Deadwood series .

29th April 2021, 06:22 PM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,365	Imagine if you had to watch it in a language censored edition. There would be more bleeps than words.

29th April 2021, 09:53 PM	#4
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,587	Very well said Fernando. When we created the "European Armory' the goal was to expand the scope of discussions outside the 'ethnographic' category, and quite honestly, as we figured the scope, the inclusion of American arms seemed 'given'. It seems ironic that the most renowned biographer of Wild Bill, and the foremost expert on American gunfighters, was the late Joseph Rosa, who was British

29th April 2021, 10:10 PM	#5
Will M Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: In the wee woods north of Napanee Ontario Posts: 395	In the beginning parts were shipped to London. Survival rate of the Navy Colts seems low. The link below has interesting information. https://coltcollectors.com/colt-mode...ndon%20factory.