kindjal - what kind of technique is it ?

Rivkin · 29th May 2006, 09:47 PM

Hello,

Ham - excellent, right on target. Kindjal is indeed from Georgia, but I was truly puzzled by the technique. Thank you very much.

Ariel - well, not all of us are senseis

, plus I really suck in understanding the metalwork.

Attached are kindjal's pictures.

Rivkin · 29th May 2006, 09:51 PM

To continue our kindjal's discussion - the first is an interesting georgian (?), even more precisely imeretian (??) speciman. The most interesting are the fullers - inside them one can see a set of extemely small dots, creating a highly unusual pattern. I have no idea what it is, it is far smaller and spatially irregular, i.e. the dots are very small, than any etching I have seen.

Rivkin · 29th May 2006, 09:55 PM

And finally - sorry, these are the only pictures I have on this one. Sort of way too expensive for me. My take would be that it is something from eastern, probably south-eastern caucases, seen many of them with similar motiffs.

ariel · 30th May 2006, 04:01 AM

Acid-etching within the fullers is esthetically appealing and structurally safe.
But the more I look at the first one (total blade etching), the less I like the potential effects on the edge: seems to me that acid ate through quite a lot of steel and some areas of the edge became thin and prone to breaking. This is likely the cause of many "non-traumatic" nicks.

Rivkin · 30th May 2006, 04:48 AM

Oh, I believe this kindjal is not for real use, sort of late XIXth century art-nuovo poking stick.

I really like the second one nevertheless - truly beutiful, like starry night. Can it be formed by etching or something more complex was used.

29th May 2006, 09:47 PM	#1
Rivkin Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 655	Hello, Ham - excellent, right on target. Kindjal is indeed from Georgia, but I was truly puzzled by the technique. Thank you very much. Ariel - well, not all of us are senseis , plus I really suck in understanding the metalwork. Attached are kindjal's pictures. Attached Images

29th May 2006, 09:51 PM	#2
Rivkin Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 655	To continue our kindjal's discussion - the first is an interesting georgian (?), even more precisely imeretian (??) speciman. The most interesting are the fullers - inside them one can see a set of extemely small dots, creating a highly unusual pattern. I have no idea what it is, it is far smaller and spatially irregular, i.e. the dots are very small, than any etching I have seen. Attached Images

29th May 2006, 09:55 PM	#3
Rivkin Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 655	And finally - sorry, these are the only pictures I have on this one. Sort of way too expensive for me. My take would be that it is something from eastern, probably south-eastern caucases, seen many of them with similar motiffs. Attached Images

30th May 2006, 04:01 AM	#4
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Acid-etching within the fullers is esthetically appealing and structurally safe. But the more I look at the first one (total blade etching), the less I like the potential effects on the edge: seems to me that acid ate through quite a lot of steel and some areas of the edge became thin and prone to breaking. This is likely the cause of many "non-traumatic" nicks.

30th May 2006, 04:48 AM	#5
Rivkin Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 655	Oh, I believe this kindjal is not for real use, sort of late XIXth century art-nuovo poking stick. I really like the second one nevertheless - truly beutiful, like starry night. Can it be formed by etching or something more complex was used.