A silver pommel with silver inlaid blade Moro Kris

kino · 9th March 2021, 07:53 PM

Jose, I haven’t tested the bands. Could be copper, although it hasn’t been polished. I just gently cleaned the blade and the clamps with steel wool.

Ian, the sword fits into the scabbard, it was just pushed to one side that’s why the ganya looks oversized for the sampir. Fort identification, I agree the scabbard shouldn’t be factored in since it looks like a replacement.

I agree with you and Jose on the dating ~mid 19th cent.
The motif on the bands and blade inlays looks Moro to me. I have seen seen similar on other Moro Kris’, of note the 4 petaled flower(?). Thank you both for your comments.

For comparison with a Kris that’s slightly older. A fullered blade, 1/8” in deficit at its widest area.

xasterix · 9th March 2021, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kino

Jose, I haven’t tested the bands. Could be copper, although it hasn’t been polished. I just gently cleaned the blade and the clamps with steel wool.

Ian, the sword fits into the scabbard, it was just pushed to one side that’s why the ganya looks oversized for the sampir. Fort identification, I agree the scabbard shouldn’t be factored in since it looks like a replacement.

I agree with you and Jose on the dating ~mid 19th cent.
The motif on the bands and blade inlays looks Moro to me. I have seen seen similar on other Moro Kris’, of note the 4 petaled flower(?). Thank you both for your comments.

For comparison with a Kris that’s slightly older. A fullered blade, 1/8” in deficit at its widest area.

I agree, it's got Bangsamoro signatures, and an old one...very pretty kris!

Ian · 10th March 2021, 03:38 AM

Hi Kino and Xas,

Please direct us to the evidence for identifying the inlaid marks on the blade of the subject sword to a confirmed Bangsamoro source. I know this can be difficult, and sometimes confidences can be an issue, but this is an important assertion and I would like to see further evidence please. There are other examples of these marks, but are they truly Moro in origin? It would also help to know what they mean.

Ian.

9th March 2021, 07:53 PM	#1
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,020	Jose, I haven’t tested the bands. Could be copper, although it hasn’t been polished. I just gently cleaned the blade and the clamps with steel wool. Ian, the sword fits into the scabbard, it was just pushed to one side that’s why the ganya looks oversized for the sampir. Fort identification, I agree the scabbard shouldn’t be factored in since it looks like a replacement. I agree with you and Jose on the dating ~mid 19th cent. The motif on the bands and blade inlays looks Moro to me. I have seen seen similar on other Moro Kris’, of note the 4 petaled flower(?). Thank you both for your comments. For comparison with a Kris that’s slightly older. A fullered blade, 1/8” in deficit at its widest area. Attached Images

10th March 2021, 03:38 AM	#3
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,460	Hi Kino and Xas, Please direct us to the evidence for identifying the inlaid marks on the blade of the subject sword to a confirmed Bangsamoro source. I know this can be difficult, and sometimes confidences can be an issue, but this is an important assertion and I would like to see further evidence please. There are other examples of these marks, but are they truly Moro in origin? It would also help to know what they mean. Ian.