New Kris off ebay

Gustav · 19th February 2021, 02:36 PM

Mine is 3 inches longer.

kai · 19th February 2021, 05:12 PM

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Mine is 3 inches longer.

Stop bragging, Gustav!

Gustav · 19th February 2021, 05:28 PM

(and two Luk more

)

kai · 19th February 2021, 05:37 PM

Well, I'm not positive that having it bent a couple of times more really is an advantage...

Gustav · 19th February 2021, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kai

Well, I'm not positive that having it bent a couple of times more really is an advantage...

Well, surely not from medical viewpoint...

mross · 2nd March 2021, 03:33 PM

Thanks for the input. Upon further consultations and research I am going with a date of 1800 give or take a decade.

David · 2nd March 2021, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mross

Thanks for the input. Upon further consultations and research I am going with a date of 1800 give or take a decade.

As with all our acquisitions we are welcome to go with whatever date makes us most comfortable, but i will also throw in with the others on this thread who have suggested a somewhat later date that is post 1850.

kai · 2nd March 2021, 07:40 PM

Hello Mike,

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Upon further consultations and research I am going with a date of 1800 give or take a decade.

I'd love to hear some reasons for this estimate - I tried to give some reasoning for my suggestion.

Regards,
Kai

kai · 19th February 2021, 05:37 PM

Hello Mike,

That's a cute little kris!

I don't see any features that would suggest an early origin - there also are some later examples with short blades, even from Mindanao.

From my experience, I'd have placed this at the last quarter of the 19th century (especially based on the angled separation line and the hilt style which also seems to be a later development). The provenance of Gustav's kris may suggest that this style could possibly date a tad earlier; some more examples with reliable provenance would certainly be needed to validate this hypothesis.

To sum things up, I believe that what you might interpret as resembling archaic kris is mainly the result of miniaturization and possibly somewhat lesser craftsmanship.

Regards,
Kai

kai · 3rd March 2021, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kai

I don't see any features that would suggest an early origin - there also are some later examples with short blades, even from Mindanao.

I mentioned Mindanao (i.e. short blades even known from a region with a clear tendency for longer blades) but did not refer to the piece under discussion.

Regards,
Kai

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Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,295	Mine is 3 inches longer. Attached Images

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kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Well, I'm not positive that having it bent a couple of times more really is an advantage...

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mross Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 478	Thanks for the input. Upon further consultations and research I am going with a date of 1800 give or take a decade.