Question about a motif.

kwiatek · 3rd February 2021, 02:33 PM

I think you are probably right. I agree it looks 19th-century and that 125(0) would fit better. Also, normally only one digit is normally missed out in a date.

Though Persians never wrote 5 this way, as a circle, maybe they have adjusted the shape to fit the decoration as you suggest.

mariusgmioc · 3rd February 2021, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by kwiatek

I think you are probably right. I agree it looks 19th-century and that 125(0) would fit better. Also, normally only one digit is normally missed out in a date.

Though Persians never wrote 5 this way, as a circle, maybe they have adjusted the shape to fit the decoration as you suggest.

Yeah we can speculate.

What about this? Does it mean anything?

kwiatek · 3rd February 2021, 03:18 PM

سنه

sana

“Year”

I seem to remember that there are loads of these daggers in Bern in the Historisches Museum. There might be one with the same design - I would check the catalogue but the libraries are all closed for the while.

Kurt · 17th February 2021, 11:22 AM

Found photos of a Khandjar with a very similar motif.
The same craftsman?
Same workshop?
Best Kurt

Battara · 17th February 2021, 11:21 PM

Looks like glass gemstones, but still nice.

Kubur · 18th February 2021, 07:54 AM

The scabbard is Ottoman Iraqi. I wonder if the gemstones were added later, in Iraq...

Kurt · 18th February 2021, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Kubur

The scabbard is Ottoman Iraqi. I wonder if the gemstones were added later, in Iraq...

I suspect scabbard and gemstones were added together in Turkey.
Best Kurt

17th February 2021, 11:22 AM	#4
Kurt Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 197	Khandjar with a very similar motif. Found photos of a Khandjar with a very similar motif. The same craftsman? Same workshop? Best Kurt Attached Images

3rd February 2021, 02:33 PM	#1
kwiatek Member Join Date: May 2019 Posts: 156	I think you are probably right. I agree it looks 19th-century and that 125(0) would fit better. Also, normally only one digit is normally missed out in a date. Though Persians never wrote 5 this way, as a circle, maybe they have adjusted the shape to fit the decoration as you suggest.

3rd February 2021, 03:18 PM	#3
kwiatek Member Join Date: May 2019 Posts: 156	سنه sana “Year” I seem to remember that there are loads of these daggers in Bern in the Historisches Museum. There might be one with the same design - I would check the catalogue but the libraries are all closed for the while.

17th February 2021, 11:21 PM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,342	Looks like glass gemstones, but still nice.

18th February 2021, 07:54 AM	#6
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	The scabbard is Ottoman Iraqi. I wonder if the gemstones were added later, in Iraq...