keris oil

[BSMStar]

Originally Posted by Rick

I don't oil for ritualistic purposes and I love the smell of 100% ; forgive an old man his indulgences and his failing memory .

Yea, that makes two of us... I am an old sap for these wonderful oils.

[BluErf]

I'm going to buy another 25gm bottle soon. Hope the price has not gone up too much here in Singapore. Will keep you guys posted.

[Pusaka]

Personally I don’t like using mineral/petroleum oil on my keris. You can use almond oil as a base and add essential oils to it to make a good keris oil, not too thick and won’t go rancid like coconut oil products.

I once mixed sandalwood & myrrh oil to make up a keris oil and to my shock it dried to form a clear solid layer like the blade had been varnished. I guess it would be good for protecting the blade but not what I was looking for.
If you’re going to mix your own oils its best to test it out on a piece of steel first just to make sure you don’t end up forming a varnish, you never know how two oils will react.

[nechesh]

Originally Posted by Pusaka

Personally I don’t like using mineral/petroleum oil on my keris. You can use almond oil as a base and add essential oils to it to make a good keris oil, not too thick and won’t go rancid like coconut oil products.

I once mixed sandalwood & myrrh oil to make up a keris oil and to my shock it dried to form a clear solid layer like the blade had been varnished. I guess it would be good for protecting the blade but not what I was looking for.
If you’re going to mix your own oils its best to test it out on a piece of steel first just to make sure you don’t end up forming a varnish, you never know how two oils will react.

I think myrrh, like frankincense, is a resin, which may be why you ended up with varnish. Almond oil sounds like an interesting base option, though it does add it's own scent which needs to be taken into consideration. Thanks for tyhe suggestion. I'll experiment.

[Pusaka]

I used the essential oil of myrrh not the resin however it did make a varnish.
The almond oil I purchased did not have a noticeable scent so I don’t think it will affect the overall scent much.
I hear that some keris oils encourage fungal growth in the wooden sheath if used excessively.

I wonder if some keris oils are made with the same care as cimande oil. Traditionally the recipe of the oil used in cimande Silat is a closely guarded secret. It is produced on one night a year and empowered by reciting sacred mantras into the oil. According to Ace Sutisna, one of the holders of the recipe “the oil in itself is not unusual, it is the mantra that brings it to life”

[nechesh]

Originally Posted by Pusaka

I used the essential oil of myrrh not the resin however it did make a varnish.
The almond oil I purchased did not have a noticeable scent so I don’t think it will affect the overall scent much.
I hear that some keris oils encourage fungal growth in the wooden sheath if used excessively.

Well obviously you would use the essential oil. My point was that it still comes from a resinous source, so maybe that was your problem. I don't see how either of the other two ingredients you mention could turn to varnish, so the myrrh is the likely culprit.

Originally Posted by Pusaka

I wonder if some keris oils are made with the same care as cimande oil. Traditionally the recipe of the oil used in cimande Silat is a closely guarded secret. It is produced on one night a year and empowered by reciting sacred mantras into the oil. According to Ace Sutisna, one of the holders of the recipe “the oil in itself is not unusual, it is the mantra that brings it to life”

I would imagine they are, though i am not familar with cimande oil. The mantras may be a well guarded secret, but anyone with the desire and intuition should be capable of developing their own rituals and mantras capable of bringing their keris oil "to life". Like all things meant to have magickal intent in your life, it is best to create them yourself if you are capable, thus allowing you to create it to best suit you own needs and personality. Of course we can't always do this (if only i had the knowledge and skills to make my own keris.... ) but i would highly encourage those who have the inclination to make their own keris oils and empower them as they see fit.

[BSMStar]

You may all be aware, and this is not a traditional oil (in Keris circles)... Clove oil works very well, smells good and will not tarnish a steel blade.

[kronckew]

Originally Posted by Pusaka

I once mixed sandalwood & myrrh oil to make up a keris oil and to my shock it dried to form a clear solid layer like the blade had been varnished.

sandalwood oil will oxidize and form a dry coating, some people recommend it for finishing wood parts of kukhris. see Linky around post no. 7, myrrh is of course, the resinous sap of an arabian tree.

not best for the metal parts tho....

[VVV]

Pusaka,

Isn't the main ingredient in Cimande oil plain coconut oil?


Michael