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|  24th May 2006, 02:21 AM | #1 | |
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 Thank for your comment. Actually I will not claim that pamor raja gundala ( pandita ) in that keris is original. My point is just showing the sample of pamor raja gundala....and that is not carving stuff.  I ever post that keris in this forum with question old keris or reforging keris.( please search use my name ). Some people said that keris is Pajang era, but in my opinion that keris is reforging keris from old material. The problem is......that raja gundala pamor ( pendita ) maybe not "pamor tiban ", so maybe "pamor rekan".  . I hope you got my point. In my opinion....original pamor raja gundala is Tiban ( unplanning ) and another people must be so easy to image the illustrate of pamor raja gundala ( ex. human, ghost, animal ).....and of course from old keris is much better  ************ Just for info....this is part of my collection : http://midinakeris.fotopic.net/ thanks. | |
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|  24th May 2006, 12:58 PM | #2 | 
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			Mr. Isreena Thank you for your infos. I tryied all night to find these "letters" in the net to have a clue, although like Nechesh said it is most likely the belanak that chase the small fish to be pamor tiban (I was told that is tiban all the way though). But I have never heard before about these kind of letters in the pamor, so I find that very very interesting and quite a new knowledge for me. Martin Kerner's book, is there anywere to buy it? | 
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|  24th May 2006, 02:43 PM | #3 | |
| Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore 
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 Bookfinder (German) http://www.bookfinder.com/german/sea...ic&st=sr&ac=qr Note that the books are in German. For The Keris Ki Sudamala, there is a translated English version. | |
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|  24th May 2006, 06:09 PM | #4 | |
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