North Sumatra Klewang

David · 14th January 2021, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sajen

Yes, agree. It's a Batak klewang. Are you going to remove the paint Séverin?

Séverin will have to make up his own mind, but this looks like a real "users" to me and that paint seems to have gotten there of it's own accord. Sometimes it's best to leave the history in place i think.

Athanase · 14th January 2021, 11:22 PM

I've never seen the rattan braiding from an Indonesian hilt covered with paint, (I just see lacquered), that's why I thought it was not local but a modification out of the original cultural context.

asomotif · 17th January 2021, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by David

Séverin will have to make up his own mind, but this looks like a real "users" to me and that paint seems to have gotten there of it's own accord. Sometimes it's best to leave the history in place i think.

I would leave the paint as it is. It looks like old paint and old rattan to me.
Of course it is part of the history of the weapon.
The fact that we do'nt know why it was painted does not change that.

Rick · 18th January 2021, 05:39 PM

^^^
I agree. Looks like it might be a can of worms.
Once stripped that rattan weaving may need to be replaced; and then what do you end up with; a refurbished antique?

"First, do no harm."

Athanase · 18th January 2021, 06:36 PM

I do not intend to remove the paint on the rattan, because I am too afraid of damaging the braiding.
I'm just thinking of putting some linseed oil on the braiding because the rattan feels dry.

Sajen · 18th January 2021, 09:37 PM

I also wouldn't try to remove the rattan, it will move because all is dry. But I would try if it's possible to remove the paint. Only when it isn't possible I would leave it alone. Maybe it's only me but to my feel it's look ugly with this paint, sorry.

14th January 2021, 11:22 PM	#2
Athanase Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Paris (France) Posts: 432	I've never seen the rattan braiding from an Indonesian hilt covered with paint, (I just see lacquered), that's why I thought it was not local but a modification out of the original cultural context.

18th January 2021, 05:39 PM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,378	^^^ I agree. Looks like it might be a can of worms. Once stripped that rattan weaving may need to be replaced; and then what do you end up with; a refurbished antique? "First, do no harm."

18th January 2021, 06:36 PM	#5
Athanase Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Paris (France) Posts: 432	I do not intend to remove the paint on the rattan, because I am too afraid of damaging the braiding. I'm just thinking of putting some linseed oil on the braiding because the rattan feels dry.

18th January 2021, 09:37 PM	#6
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,470	I also wouldn't try to remove the rattan, it will move because all is dry. But I would try if it's possible to remove the paint. Only when it isn't possible I would leave it alone. Maybe it's only me but to my feel it's look ugly with this paint, sorry.